Start up wear, Normal wear, and the relation to various oil properties. SAE 2006-01-3414

[RDY4WAR]

Until the MOFT goes to zero and wear and friction increase, lol.

At a cost, yes. It's still never more protective.

Find the wear in this 1500 hp, 10,500 rpm engine running a 0W-8 oil.

PS: I actually agree with you for the most part. I just have an unhealthy obsession with playing the devil's advocate.

 

[kschachn]

That truly means nothing to me. Even if I believe you on this, I do not know the circumstances nor the situation. That's a silly comparison to my vehicles that operate in an uncontrolled environment for upwards of 300k or in the case of my old Sienna to over 460k. Completely different operational requirements and expectations.

 

[High Performance Lubricants]

Since that is the rotating assembly from one of our Pro Stock teams I can vouch for the validity. Since this time we have lowered the viscosity to the unofficial 0w5. Over the history of this team they would pull the engines apart and the bearings would look nothing like this. Currently they reuse bearings for the first time in the history of the team. The only real difference is in the additive strategy between oil A and current oil B. The other thing here is the validity that engine designs do evolve around the intention to use lighter oil. These engines have some very well developed oil pumps to both provide enough lightweight oil and also help maintain ring seal to make power.

The total combination matters to get the results that matter.

 

[kschachn]

Well if you guys want me to start using 0W-8 or 0W-5 racing oil in my vehicles (including the Tiguan) you’ll have to help me with a recommended OCI and anything else I might need. I have to say I am a bit concerned about the oil temperatures for my old 1MZ-FE.

 

[RDY4WAR]

That truly means nothing to me. Even if I believe you on this, I do not know the circumstances nor the situation. That's an idiotic comparison to my vehicles that operate in an uncontrolled environment for upwards of 300k or in the case of my old Sienna to over 460k. Completely different operational requirements and expectations.

I thought you knew better than this but I guess not.

Read the PS below the picture.

 

[kschachn]

Read the PS below the picture.

I apologize.

Yes I tend to get a bit annoyed when people make what I believe to be unwarranted comparisions to racing. Sure there are things that are applicable to PCMO but more often it is similar to statements such as "it's used by the military" or "NASA used it on the space shuttle". Or even worse the "tested by the military" which is a completely useless statement.

Again sorry for the outburst.

 

[High Performance Lubricants]

Well if you guys want me to start using 0W-8 or 0W-5 racing oil in my vehicles (including the Tiguan) you’ll have to help me with a recommended OCI and anything else I might need. I have to say I am a bit concerned about the oil temperatures for my old 1MZ-FE.

I would not recommend this for you. It does do well in the right environment much to your point. Additives matter a lot.

 

[High Performance Lubricants]

I apologize.

Yes I tend to get a bit annoyed when people make what I believe to be unwarranted comparisions to racing. Sure there are things that are applicable to PCMO but more often it is similar to statements such as "it's used by the military" or "NASA used it on the space shuttle". Or even worse the "tested by the military" which is a completely useless statement.

Again sorry for the outburst.

Couldn't agree more. "XYZ product is used on the space shuttle". well if you happen to be flying a space shuttle that would be relevant information. Since none of us are, it's really not.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Well if you guys want me to start using 0W-8 or 0W-5 racing oil in my vehicles (including the Tiguan) you’ll have to help me with a recommended OCI and anything else I might need.

Only for testing use on twin turbos. 😄

 

[AEHaas]

Are we more tolerant of thinner oils these days?