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Originally posted by Jtgrant:
I am running 3000 oci and I want to use a good synthetic.

Why? If you're running that short of an OCI, there's no reason to use a synthetic. Any quality petroleum will give you all the protection you need. Look at Havoline, Chevron, or even good ol' Pennzoil conventional.
 
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Originally posted by Jtgrant:
I am running 3000 oci and I want to use a good synthetic.

Why? If you're running that short of an OCI, there's no reason to use a synthetic. Any quality petroleum will give you all the protection you need. Look at Havoline, Chevron, or even good ol' Pennzoil conventional.


I completelt agree, if he is going to stick to the 3000 miles oil change myth, go with a conventional oil.

Ridiculous to change synthetic at 3000miles.
 
1. I will have peace of mind
2. I know that I will not be pushing the oil
3. Synthetic is better than conventional
4. you get a slight hp/torq gain
5. better fuel economy with a syn.
6. Flows better especially at startup
7. synthetic provides less wear
8. its cheap insurance
9. just because I change my oil often does not mean that I have to use a conventional.
10. So you are trying to tell me that there is no benifit to run synthetic for only 3000 miles? Yeah right!

You say that it is ridiculous to change synthetic every 3000 miles, I don't thing so. I realize that the oil is capable of going much further. Even using a synthetic you are still going to get contaminants in the oil. So unless all you guys at least change your oil filter every 3000 miles. I think that 10000 oil changes is ridiculous. The oil can go 10000 miles but I think that is pushing it on a filter.
 
Nope no real benefit at all.

Go with a good conventioanl oil for those types of intervals.

And for ***'s sake, read this forum, 3000mile interval died in the 60s.

Let it go......
 
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Originally posted by Jtgrant:
1. I will have peace of mind
2. I know that I will not be pushing the oil
3. Synthetic is better than conventional
4. you get a slight hp/torq gain
5. better fuel economy with a syn.
6. Flows better especially at startup
7. synthetic provides less wear
8. its cheap insurance
9. just because I change my oil often does not mean that I have to use a conventional.
10. So you are trying to tell me that there is no benifit to run synthetic for only 3000 miles? Yeah right!
11. Its my engine and my wallet.

You say that it is ridiculous to change synthetic every 3000 miles, I don't thing so. I realize that the oil is capable of going much further. Even using a synthetic you are still going to get contaminants in the oil. So unless all you guys at least change your oil filter every 3000 miles. I think that 10000 oil changes is ridiculous. The oil can go 10000 miles but I think that is pushing it on a filter.


 
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Originally posted by eddyzima:
look at uoa on 3k changes. good conventional will give you lower wear numbers.

Lower wear numbers than a synthetic? Are you trying to tell me that I will get better wear numbers from a conventional?
 
Yip, the main benefit of synthetics is longer oil change intervals which you won't be doing hence why you don't need to use it in your application.

Especially in georgia, you don't require the cold start ability seeing your temperature don't even test a conventional's pour point.
 
Yes you can get better wear numbers from a conventional

1. I will have peace of mind -True
2. I know that I will not be pushing the oil --Absolutely
3. Synthetic is better than conventional-- FALSE
4. you get a slight hp/torq gain --Viscosity index related, not a syn/conventional issue
5. better fuel economy with a syn.-See above
6. Flows better especially at startup-See above
7. synthetic provides less wear-False
8. its cheap insurance- False
9. just because I change my oil often does not mean that I have to use a conventional. It's a free country
10. So you are trying to tell me that there is no benifit to run synthetic for only 3000 miles? I agre with yor response their is no benefity to syn at 3k miles in a NA engine.

I am amazed at how advertisement can become fact with so many.
 
So true,

Jtgrant, you do understand that most of the information you are going by has been brainwashed into everyone's head.

The 3000mile oil change interval even with conventional oil tells all.

You need to get more informaed before you start arguing with people ON YOUR SIDE TRYING TO HELP YOU GET THE PERFECT OIL FOR YOU APPLICATION.
 
So the only reason to run a syn is longer oci? No difference in wear? I just don't see how a conventional can out perform a synthetic in 3000 OCI. Educate me please.
 
You are not even testing conventional oil at 3000 miles.

You don't require cold start protection, you live in the south.
You won't see any performance difference over a good conventional oil.
You won't get better protection seeing you won't be even consuming the additive pack on a good conventional at 3000miles.

Why are you worried about synthetics?

If you want synthetic, learn how to use it properly.

It is like buying a corvette to go get groceries.
 
so you are saying that if I were to have an UOA done with synthetic at 3000oci.
then have one down with conventional at 3000 miles.
There would be no difference in the wear numbers, given that both intervals were in the same conditions?

Just trying to learn not argue.
 
Jtgrant. I don't think Blazerlt can educate someone about what synthetic oil is, because he clearly does NOT have a clue about what it is. Of course synthetic is better, and especially if you do more than 2000RPM on your engine once in a while. Most the reasons you listed up are correct. Additionally, your engine will be cleaner inside. Here in Europe, we don't see many cases of heavily sludged engines. Not even the Audi/VW 1.8 turbo. Do you know the reason why? Most of us use synthetic. Of course additive packets play a major role, but when it is used, synthetic still performs, dino don't.
 
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Originally posted by jonny-b:
Jtgrant. I don't think Blazerlt can educate someone about what synthetic oil is, because he clearly does NOT have a clue about what it is. Of course synthetic is better, and especially if you do more than 2000RPM on your engine once in a while. Most the reasons you listed up are correct. Additionally, your engine will be cleaner inside. Here in Europe, we don't see many cases of heavily sludged engines. Not even the Audi/VW 1.8 turbo. Do you know the reason why? Most of us use synthetic. Of course additive packets play a major role, but when it is used, synthetic still performs, dino don't.

And who are you to say I don't know what I am talking about newb.

Please tell me ole' wise newb what I am saying that is wrong over a 3000mile OCI.

3000mile and needing synthetics, tells me just about how "sharp" you are.
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Another matter about synthetic, is that it is capable of doing 10-15000Mile OCI(I do 18-19000 on my Royal Purple)without any problems. However it is a good idea to do UOA sometimes, to see what is going on in the engine.
 
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Originally posted by Jtgrant:
so you are saying that if I were to have an used oil analysis done with synthetic at 3000oci.
then have one down with conventional at 3000 miles.
There would be no difference in the wear numbers, given that both intervals were in the same conditions?


Statistically insignificant would best describe your results. You may do slightly better on one or the other. You may like the performance and noise level on one more than the other. But the wear will vary and you cannot judge an oil by other peoples used oil analysis. There is some trending data in the used oil analysis section that does show less wear or corrosion in conventional runs.
 
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