Results of Honda/Acura HTO-06 Test _ Mobil 1
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Ouch! Well i guess they need to distinguish between the Acura and the Honda
>> When will Amsoil have an Acura HTO-06 oil?
When they print their next batch of bottles and throw "Recommended for Acura HTO-06 Applications" on it?
When they print their next batch of bottles and throw "Recommended for Acura HTO-06 Applications" on it?
Ah, funny guys! Better to believe weblore than facts. I'm not exactly sure where the whole "Amsoil doesn't test their oils" garbage started, but how about a thought process check?
G-man - "better" is a multidimensional feature.
No one said Amsoil doesn't test their oils. But the fact remains that on the web site, Amsoil doesn't say that their oils actually "meet" the requirements of any of these OEM specs. They merely state that their oils are "recommended for" applications that require them.
I'm quite certain that Amsoil does some internal testing and they are confident they can "recommend" their oils for these specs. That's not the same thing as actually putting your oils through the OEM-approved battery of tests in order to carry the OEM certification.
You can check to see who is really certified here.
http://eolcs.api.org/
Unless I spelled it wrong Amsoil does not make it. It is kind of like, "I test for my pilot's license all the time at home and pass every time". I'll take the FAA certified pilots any day.
http://eolcs.api.org/
Unless I spelled it wrong Amsoil does not make it. It is kind of like, "I test for my pilot's license all the time at home and pass every time". I'll take the FAA certified pilots any day.
Amazing that Redline isn't there........and we know how good that oil is.
The pilot's license analogy was use once before, didn't work then either. It just makes no sense when you are talking about a minimum oil standard.
The pilot's license analogy was use once before, didn't work then either. It just makes no sense when you are talking about a minimum oil standard.
Actually it worked just as well this time. Do you fly often?
I stand corrected. I see Amsoil has a total of five qualified oils.
Yes I fly often. And there is a HUGE difference between "certifying" that a human can perform a very critical task and a blended physical product being certified to a set of minimum standards. The thing that you and others seem to forget is that Amsoil's oils are tested by outside labs as well as inside labs.
Answer me this: Do you REALLY think if Amsoil failed any of the performance parameters they would sell their oil?
PS I'm still waiting for you to apologize for your mistake above.
Answer me this: Do you REALLY think if Amsoil failed any of the performance parameters they would sell their oil?
PS I'm still waiting for you to apologize for your mistake above.
Apology was posted even before you requested. But 5 oils total, and 4 to SM? I won't mention how many oils "fly by night" companies like Petro Canada and Amalie have qualified.
I really take exception to the minimum standards scam. Sure it is easy for a manufacturer to say, "why should we test our oil to a silly basic MINIMUM standards when we produce such great oils?". I say test it and this is an not even an item to discuss. Amsoil says they test more than any other manufacturer of oils. So obviously they have no problem with the concept. Just do it to a recognized standard, or admit there is a problem.
A bottle of AMSoil and Mobil 1 sitting side-by-side, you'd have to be a marketing drone to pick Mobil 1.
I have to agree with the above. I have never used AMSOIL but if there was an oil change of AMSOIL and Mobil 1 side by side equally ready for an oil change I would use AMSOIL before the Mobil 1.
Mobil 1 is overhyped Synmarketing. It does well because of massive advertising and availability through discount outlets.
Although many my find the Marketing of AMSOIL as undesireable I have never seen evidence that it is the inferior product. Usually it's the contrary.
Mobil 1 is overhyped Synmarketing. It does well because of massive advertising and availability through discount outlets.
Although many my find the Marketing of AMSOIL as undesireable I have never seen evidence that it is the inferior product. Usually it's the contrary.
FAA "licensing" is not required for military pilots. Many military pilots eventually become commercial FAA licensed pilots. One small paper change. The basic skills are still the exceptionally high quality military ones, whether you have a piece of paper to prove it or flew for it while using your aircraft as a weapon system AND flying. I know I was one.
I know oil and Amsoil pretty well too.
Amsoil does not sit,pay,submit for API licensing most of the time but the lubricants are rarely a problem formulation quality wise.
Now the marketing and corporate side is a whole different argument. If it was not for the high quality BITOG/Amsoil dealers that support and contribute to this site I doubt the product would see the light of day here. FOR MARKETING REASONS. Do I love Amsoil marketing NO, do I respect the oil analysis results from those who use it properly, yes. It performs well with quality oil analysis ( sadly not Amsoils own ) that is used to employ the product safely and effectively.
Terry
I know oil and Amsoil pretty well too.
Amsoil does not sit,pay,submit for API licensing most of the time but the lubricants are rarely a problem formulation quality wise.
Now the marketing and corporate side is a whole different argument. If it was not for the high quality BITOG/Amsoil dealers that support and contribute to this site I doubt the product would see the light of day here. FOR MARKETING REASONS. Do I love Amsoil marketing NO, do I respect the oil analysis results from those who use it properly, yes. It performs well with quality oil analysis ( sadly not Amsoils own ) that is used to employ the product safely and effectively.
Terry
I read on a recent article that PP is the other oil that has met the HTO-06 spec. I just wrote them a quick email to see if they are in fact the other mystery oil. I will let you know what I find out.
Here is the response I got from Pennzoil.
Dear Mr. *****; Thank you for your interest in our product. The certification for the Pennzoil Platinum was received from Honda in August , 2006 this is why it does not appear on our Technical Data Sheet for the product. The Technical Data Sheets will have this information the next time they are revised which should occur within the next 2 months.
Sincerely
Product Technical Service
Dear Mr. *****; Thank you for your interest in our product. The certification for the Pennzoil Platinum was received from Honda in August , 2006 this is why it does not appear on our Technical Data Sheet for the product. The Technical Data Sheets will have this information the next time they are revised which should occur within the next 2 months.
Sincerely
Product Technical Service
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