Originally Posted by burla
It wasn't always like this, I would have never known about redline if not for this board. A once shot in the dark and trying to fix a ticking situation has led to some great discovery that has helped many people with hemi tick, that sounds like a knocking engine. Even after seeing the "oil guys" say some real weak statements like caling a pao/ester based oil pinkline rather then get on board with the many testamonials, I still feel at some point they will understand that some engines really benefit from the hearty formula. Some applications are not being protected with the modern oil formulations, and the hemi is one of them, and as it turns out the solution is rather simple.
Again, it's not dislike of Red Line. I use Red Line products. The average person, however, is absolutely not going to gain one iota of benefit by running Red Line oil over the cheapest bulk in-spec oil they can buy. It's not even like the fact that the average person doesn't need a Lambo to go get groceries, go everywhere on a private jet, or eat three gourmet meals a day. They may not see a real benefit, but at least they'll notice the difference. 99% of the motoring public think oil is oil and if there is any differentiation to them, aside from price, it's brand, and those who actually pay attention to specifications in the first place are rare. That lack of obvious benefit for most of the motoring public is why you see people turn their noses up at Red Line or disapprove of it. I'm a base stock snob myself. I realize that in the end it doesn't matter, and claiming that it really does is counterproductive to me and anyone who comes here looking for assistance.
What do testimonials matter? I think my G37 is quiet with my Rotella, quieter than ever. I've heard other testimonials here on BITOG with respect to the Rotella 5w-30. That's not evidence, and in the end, most people, again, think oil is oil, and for the rest of us, buy what makes you happy. If one thinks that Oil X, while meeting the required specification, also gives one more power, better fuel economy, a cleaner engine, less noise, tastes great, and is less filling, that's fine. Buy it, but don't expect me to take the claims more than with a grain of salt. Irrespective of brand, I'm satisfied when someone finds an oil that works for them and isn't causing them any harm. And yes, Red Line falls into that category and Red Line is a brand I trust. I'm not going to try to talk a person out of using a suitable oil with which they're happy.
Originally Posted by burla
I'm not trying hard, I try not to post something unless it is new, it will have to be other BITOG members to continue what is going on if it will go on, if someone is searching for answers on this forum, because to be honest I'm not that invested in arguing with "oil guys" who refuse to embrace what is happening in this segment of the oil world.
Of course, that's a tiny segment of the oil world. It's barely bigger than the Nissan Genuine Ester oil segment fiasco years back. Someone driving a Cummins doesn't give two hoots about what Red Line did for someone's Hemi tick. That's not a knock on its success; it's just reality.
