Questions about Elf oils

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Hello, is there anyone that knows HTHS values for Elf HTX 830 (10w30) and 822 (15w50) oils ? And PAO/POE percentages ? I'm not able to find those values on their sites... PS: given that, according to the oil tolerances I have in my engine ( Toyota 3SGTE 2000cc turbo 425+ 4whp ) I'd like to use a 10w40 oil, could it be possible to mix those 2 oils without any issue ? TIA.
 
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ELF HTX ……………….……….. 833 15W-40 … 830 10W-30 … 822 15W-50 … 802 10W-50 Density à 15°C, kg/dm3 ………. 0,850 …….…. 0,857 …………... 0,950 ……….…. 0,860 Visc. @ 40°C, mm²/s (cSt) .…. 125 ……..….... 71 ………….…… 111 ….….……… 110 Visc. @ 100°C, mm²/s (cSt) … 16,2 ……..….. 12,4 ……………… 17,4 ……….….. 18,2 Viscosity index .………….…...…… 146 …..…..…. 177 ………………. 184 ……….…... 180 Flash Point, °C ….…….….…..…… 250 …………… 200 ………………. 264 ……..……… 240 Pour Point, °C …………….…….…. –39 ……….... –36 ……………….. -36 ….….…….. - 39 Dinamic vis., MPa.s (cP) ….….. 3300 ….…... 3300 ……………… 3050 ……….…… 2900 Volatility Noack, % …….…..….….. 4 ……..…...… 8 …………………... 5 …….…..….…. 7 Shear stability, % ………..……..… <1 ………….… 4,3 ……………….... 5 ……..….…….. 5 Ash content…………..………….….. 0,7 ………...… 0,7 ……………….. 1.1 ……..………. 1,1
 
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Forgot to add that Elf does not recommend HTX range as a subsitution of "civil" oils. If I am not mistaken, they said 802 is more suitable for daily use, but again under number of reservations.
 
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Primus, You are always a solid source of good information. It appears to me that ELF takes the logical approach that oils should be used strictly according to the intent of their "design." I would follow their advice and use the racing oils for racing and ...well you all get the idea. It is clear to me that Motul takes this approach as well.
 

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BTW, talking about euro oils... especially Motul and Elf... do you know/could ask the PAO/POE percentages of these oils ? PS: why Elf does not recommend HTX range as a subsitution of "civil" oils ? TIA.
 
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Elf's street oils and racing oils are 80% PAO based per my conversation with Elf USA. Don't get caught up in all the Ester hoopla.
 
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[Off Topic!] I only got caught up in hoopla one time...it was when Hawaii was very popular on the mainland and the hula was the dance to do: you guessed it; I got caught up in the Hula Hoopla...yup, it's all true [Wink]
 
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