QSGB Formula change???

[KCJeep]

I have long wanted to try PYB's kissin' cousin QSGB in my Jeep. So I went ahead and bought the next OCI's worth to finally try.

I was interested as I wanted to try QSGB's boron heavy add pack to compare vs PYB's moly heavy add pack. For a long time now, QSGB has had 200+ ppm boron and about 100 ppm moly. PYB in SN formula has had about 100 ppm boron and 250 ppm moly. So I wanted to tinker with the QSGB for fun.

Then I stumbled on a recent VOA of QSGB that showed 100 ppm boron and about 170 ppm moly. And now I can't find it again, I think it was dated 2015. Anyway if that is the actual case, that makes QSGB more of a PYB "lite" IMO and I'd rather just stick with my trusty yellow bottle.

Anybody know? I can't find the link I saw again.

 

[wemay]

5W30 QSGB as tested by PQIA after 7/2015

http://www.pqiadata.org/QuakerState5W30712015.html



As opposed to this one which was tested sometime after 1/2015

http://www.pqiadata.org/QuakerState5W30.html

 

[slug_bug]

Here's the link to the PQIA analysis from 2015.
http://www.pqiadata.org/QuakerState5W30712015.html

If you want boron try Chevron Delo400 LE (in the summertime!)557ppm

oops. I see Wemay beat me to it.

 

[KCJeep]

That's it! The link I somehow lost. But now I am more confused, there are 2 2015 VOA's one is the former known brew the other is it new or just a fluke run of some type?

Is that the 5w40 Delo you are mentioning slug? Don't think I wanna pay for that, would be interested in the XLE 10w30 but I think it's basically like Rotella, ZDDP and not anything else IIRC. Since I do a lot of short trips now was interested in a boron add pack. Not that it really makes much difference but hey that is what oil nerds do!

 

[slug_bug]

I was referring the the HDEO 15w-40. That's why I said only in summer.

Seems like an HDEO would be ok in a 2004. Link to PQI report with the Delo:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/consolidated HDEO 2015.html

 

[BrocLuno]

Delo is good in Jeeps

 

[KCJeep]

Yes it is I ran the 15w40 once in the summer, mine however does not like oil THAT thick I ended up having to dilute it a bit. Others run 15w40 without issue though.

I checked my QSGB it's all January 2016 I am betting it's the "new" stuff.

Kinda defeats my purpose I think I'm gonna exchange it.

 

[daves87rs]

 

[KCJeep]

Well since QSGB is now apparently just a PYB "lite" I took it back and got some more Pennzoil instead. I have been running Pennzoil in the Jeep for several years and was going to tinker with QSGB for fun but I guess not.

It occurred to me as I was exchanging that SOPUS tinkered with both Defy and now QSGB this last year, and I don't think either change was particularly an improvement.

 

[53' Stude]

You disappoint me. What is wrong with QSGB?? PYB is overrated as is PHM

 

[53' Stude]

Or what the he** is so dam impressive about aPYB??

 

[slacktide_bitog]

QSGB is Hyundai/Kia factory fill

 

[Torrid]

Duh it's yellow and says Pennzoil on it. That's why I put it in my car!

 

[KCJeep]

There is absolutely nothing "wrong" with QSGB. But if it is going to use the same add pack as PYB, except less of it, I'll take the PYB thank you.

I wish they had left it alone but I guess I can't complain cause I really never got around to using it. Defy is another matter they really messed that stuff up.

 

[SR5]

Originally Posted By: car51
Or what the he** is so dam impressive about aPYB??


I got no dog in the fight, can't get either here, but it's due to these impressive VOA from PQIA. High TBN, very low Noack, with good Molly and Boron.

http://www.pqiadata.org/Pennzoil10W30.html

http://www.pqiamerica.com/Nov2013/Pennzoil.htm

That Noack volatility is better than a few synthetics.

 

[Torrid]

Yep that's the reason I run it in my car and chose the 10w-30 over 5w-30.

 

[Gene K]

In my opinion PYB runs the highest quality base stock of any conventional. Its more shear resistant than many synthetics. Add to that what appears to be a stout add pack and high TBN.


Thats just opinion but seeing as I dont use it I got no dog in this fight.

 

[SR5]

KCJeep, what about Formula Shell or Kendall ? Last time I looked they both had a big dose of Boron and a small dose of Moly.

 

[KCJeep]

Good options both but not available here. I have been using Trop Artic in my other vehicles a good bit for several years, and it is boron heavy as well. But it is not available in the heavier grades I favor for the Jeep, and my only source for it just pulled out and left town anyway.

 

[53' Stude]

Yeah, but as discussed; SOPUS can stop using the GTL in their oils whenever they want to