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I had a couple of Purolator PL24651 filters in my stash and thought I would run at least one of them for 3000 miles to see how these were doing rather than use them for target practice. I figured the filter should go 3000 miles in 2 months using Maxlife 5W30. Purolator PL24651 Date code: F07F30G1 After 3000 miles, I did notice a little startup rattle so I arranged to see if the ADBV held or not. I came in from a long run, parked the truck and after a couple hours spun the filter off expecting to see a flood of oil which would be normal for this engine. About a tablespoon of oil fell into the drain pan from removing the filter. This means the filter did not have ADBV function. The photos will show the ADBV is in pristine condition so the source of the leak down is not likely the ADBV itself. The ADBV had no tears or cuts and was one of the best ADBVs I have touched. I suspect the sealant they use between the base plate and the external can which holds the gasket is not complete or failing. I had to use a cap wrench to remove the filter as it would not budge. The gasket stuck to the filter mount. I like the gasket, but that is not why I would buy the filter. smile If you look closely at photo #5 at about 9 O'clock on the base plate, you will see some black residue. I believe that to be the sealant. I do not know if this is the leakage path or not. It would need closer examination and dissection. IMG_0567-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter label IMG_0569-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Date Code IMG_0566-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside of can with leaf spring IMG_0570-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV in place IMG_0571-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV showing inlet side of the ADBV IMG_0580-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Base plate exterior view IMG_0573-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media showing wide pleat spaces either side of the splice IMG_0574-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 90 degrees IMG_0575-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 180 degrees IMG_0576-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 300 degrees IMG_0577-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Bypass valve IMG_0578-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter IMG_0579-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter on axis view Since the filter did not tear on the short run, I will use the second one on another short run. I think the Valvoline Maxlife 5W30 shears down a bit after 2000 miles or so and this may contribute to how quickly the oil drains back. Since the wide pleat spaces are still there, I do not want to take a risk running the filter type for a longer OCI / FCI. Enjoy and let the discussions begin. Welloiled.
 
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I had a couple of Purolator PL24651 filters in my stash and thought I would run at least one of them for 3000 miles to see how these were doing rather than use them for target practice. I figured the filter should go 3000 miles in 2 months using Maxlife 5W30. Purolator PL24651 Date code: F07F30G1 After 3000 miles, I did notice a little startup rattle so I arranged to see if the ADBV held or not. I came in from a long run, parked the truck and after a couple hours spun the filter off expecting to see a flood of oil which would be normal for this engine. About a tablespoon of oil fell into the drain pan from removing the filter. This means the filter did not have ADBV function. The photos will show the ADBV is in pristine condition so the source of the leak down is not likely the ADBV itself. The ADBV had no tears or cuts and was one of the best ADBVs I have touched. I suspect the sealant they use between the base plate and the external can which holds the gasket is not complete or failing. I had to use a cap wrench to remove the filter as it would not budge. The gasket stuck to the filter mount. I like the gasket, but that is not why I would buy the filter. smile If you look closely at photo #5 at about 9 O'clock on the base plate, you will see some black residue. I believe that to be the sealant. I do not know if this is the leakage path or not. It would need closer examination and dissection. IMG_0567-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter label IMG_0569-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Date Code IMG_0566-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside of can with leaf spring IMG_0570-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV in place IMG_0571-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV showing inlet side of the ADBV IMG_0580-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Base plate exterior view IMG_0573-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media showing wide pleat spaces either side of the splice IMG_0574-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 90 degrees IMG_0575-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 180 degrees IMG_0576-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 300 degrees IMG_0577-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Bypass valve IMG_0578-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter IMG_0579-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter on axis view Since the filter did not tear on the short run, I will use the second one on another short run. I think the Valvoline Maxlife 5W30 shears down a bit after 2000 miles or so and this may contribute to how quickly the oil drains back. Since the wide pleat spaces are still there, I do not want to take a risk running the filter type for a longer OCI / FCI. Enjoy and let the discussions begin. Welloiled.
I'm a bit lost as to why only spoonful of oil drained out. This filter actually looks OK If only I could get my dam stubborn brother to stop using Purolator stuff frown
 

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I'm a bit lost as to why only spoonful of oil drained out. This filter actually looks OK If only I could get my dam stubborn brother to stop using Purolator stuff frown
The ADBV failed and the oil drained back into the sump. The filter was full of oil. And yes, the filter and the oil could have gone further.
 
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I would have liked to had a couple of the new ones hot off the press. However, I am not sure it would be worth the effort. Way to many cut ADBVs. Thanks for the feedback.
 
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Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.
 

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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.
I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin And, you are welcome.
 
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Originally Posted By: car51
We don't use any Purolators at work. On diesels which we don't have bulk oil for I use Autozone for oil and filter. Don't want a Purolator tearing on a diesel
The BITOG members in the know with diesels have given Purolator diesel filters two thumbs down. I defer to them.
 
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Originally Posted By: car51
We don't use any Purolators at work. On diesels which we don't have bulk oil for I use Autozone for oil and filter. Don't want a Purolator tearing on a diesel
The BITOG members in the know with diesels have given Purolator diesel filters two thumbs down. I defer to them.
LOL! Even my pops uses nothing but Donaldson or Baldwin on his diesel pickup
 
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.
I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin And, you are welcome.
Well, you could have just changed the filter & left the oil in the sump (since virtually none was left in the removed filter)-Purolator, the ANTI-Ultra, TWO filters per standard OCI!
 
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.
I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin And, you are welcome.
Well, you could have just changed the filter & left the oil in the sump (since virtually none was left in the removed filter)-Purolator, the ANTI-Ultra, TWO filters per standard OCI!
That would have worked. Thanks again to the OP for reminding me that my decision to ditch Purolator for good was a wise one.
 

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Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.
I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin And, you are welcome.
Well, you could have just changed the filter & left the oil in the sump (since virtually none was left in the removed filter)-Purolator, the ANTI-Ultra, TWO filters per standard OCI!
That would have worked. Thanks again to the OP for reminding me that my decision to ditch Purolator for good was a wise one.
You guys are right. That would have worked. If I could have found a few more on close out, I could have done a Maxlife TBN retention study. 99.9% efficiency @ 20 microns ISO 4548-12 according to the box. LOL crackmeup That would be just prior to the tear. Bullwinkle, the filter was full of oil. Only a tablespoon or so came from above the filter.
 
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If the ADBV failed then how was the filter full of oil?? Would the filter being full of oil when being taken off be a sign that the ADBV was working correctly??
 
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Ahh so the base end is facing towards the hood of the vehicle vertically. If it is vertically aligned then I wouldn't be surprised if it was full of oil.. Don't know. I have a Toyota Camry with the base open end facing downwards at an angle. It has been empty at times. One time with a Fram Ultra. A Carquest red filter actually had a lot of oil in it. Way I figured it was that the Fram Ultra did not do well at all with it's ADBV. While the Carquest red filter actually did a very good job with it's ADBV because it had a lot of oil in it. Maybe I have that backwards.. but I don't think so. But maybe I am wrong... And if a filter is vertically aligned I would just think it would always be full of oil just because of the way it is positioned. However, if when removed no oil came from above the filter then obviously it did fail.. That would make sense to me. Not trying to give you a hard time here at all. Just trying to figure out what the deal was. And to learn/know what to expect if I ever get a filter that is set up very different from what I have seen to this point.
 
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