I used one on my PorscheSo you’d promote using the Boss filter?
I used one on my PorscheSo you’d promote using the Boss filter?
From what I recall, the domestic OE filters weren't bad on filtration:I am of the same opinion. Otherwise OEM filters would be built to be more efficient than most are.
Honda and Toyota are less than stellar there, and aren't their engines generally considered to be some of the longest lasting available?From what I recall, the domestic OE filters weren't bad on filtration:
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If we ignore some specific exceptional examples, yes, but then so are the LSx engines and the Ford Modulars. I don't think anyone has a monopoly on long term durability.Honda and Toyota are less than stellar there, and aren't their engines generally considered to be some of the longest lasting available?
Which circles back to:If we ignore some specific exceptional examples, yes, but then so are the LSx engines and the Ford Modulars. I don't think anyone has a monopoly on long term durability.
I do not promote any particular filter. I would just like to know if there are real evidences of engines not lasting long unless a particular filter is used.So you’d promote using the Boss filter?
Which circles back to:
I don't think the oil filter or viscosity matters much.
Any oil is better than no oil.Which circles back to:
I don't think the oil filter or viscosity matters much.
I actually like the construction of the PurolatorBoss. Very strong media with plastic mesh, very clean glue, metal crimp on media ends. Just wish it had comparable efficiency to the Mobil1 and the Royal Purple. The Royal Purple is hard to find as opposed to Purolators.
The Motorcraft fl820s filter listed there is a filter I use . Pretty good for $3.17 . Of course if it doesn't tear .From what I recall, the domestic OE filters weren't bad on filtration:
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The AMSOIL EaO was later updated to show 98.7% @ 15 microns:
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But they now claim 99% @ 20 microns.
Because nobody will take the time to do their own research on the subject matter, and don't believe any of studies done - ???. Believing that oil filtration doesn't matter is basically just another long standing misconception. Still waiting for that study that shows cleaner oil doesn't result in less wear.It’s really hard to have a discussion about oil filter effects on wear at this sight - you might know why …
Interestingly before the Amsoil ISO test, MC only claimed 'at least 80% @ 20um'. In fact still do. If not for this test wouldn't have had another result.The Motorcraft fl820s filter listed there is a filter I use . Pretty good for $3.17. Of course if it doesn't tear .
The Motorcraft fl820s filter listed there is a filter I use . Pretty good for $3.17 . Of course if it doesn't tear .
There's a difference between "making it" (whatever that really means) and if the engine will be in better shape at that point or not due to keeping the oil cleaner.Is there any real life evidence that using an oil filter that is rated for, say 99% at 40 to 50 microns, for the entire life of a car the engine will not be able to make it from 200,000 to 300,000 miles?
You know that if the MOFT isn't adequate that more wear will also occur. So 'thick vs thin' can also matter in the longevity of an engine.No.
On paper, the more efficient the filter, the cleaner the oil, the less wear.
In practice it doesn't seem to matter much. Just like thick v thin.
A few years back, Motorcraft put out a YT video saying that all their filters meet USCAR-36 which requires an efficiency of at least 95% @ 35u, which may or may not equate to the 80% @ 20u.Interestingly before the Amsoil ISO test, MC only claimed 'at least 80% @ 20um'. In fact still do. If not for this test wouldn't have had another result.
On could infer other MC filters similar. But yeah, the 820S has other issues.
I haven’t seen any hate but I sure have seen a lot of torn media.I used this oil filter on a Crown Vic from 60,000 miles to 360,000 miles. The car was retired at this point due to severe rust issues on frame and suspension. Don't listen to the hate of this oil filter,it works.
Yep. Now, I never had one tear, but I've seen a few on here that did. IIRC, the 820S was not the king of tearing, there were other Purolator made filters that tore significantly more frequently.I haven’t seen any hate but I sure have seen a lot of torn media.
I haven’t seen any hate but I sure have seen a lot of torn media.
So it 'could' be. Stand corrected on the 'still do.' Amended to 'perhaps' still do. Main point obviously missed, Amsoil ISO tested out significantly higher than the then published 'at least 80%@20um.' And higher than the newer USCAR.A few years back, Motorcraft put out a YT video saying that all their filters meet USCAR-36 which requires an efficiency of at least 95% @ 35u, which may or may not equate to the 80% @ 20u.....