Your in-depth, thorough and technical explanation has changed my mind. Thanks !
Your in-depth, thorough and technical explanation has changed my mind. Thanks !
That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works. Your emotions and baseless opinions do not constitute the facts of the situation.Your in-depth, thorough and technical explanation has changed my mind. Thanks !
Different additive composition - yesAnalysis of the fluid says it is actually "special". Most Dexron-based ATFs are very similar with slight variations, but DW-1 is formulated with substantially different amounts of (2) (as I recall) components and no aftermarket ATFs come anywhere close. Why does Honda do this ? No one can publicly say, but they must be doing it for a reason.
It's hard to judge end performance on additive package alone. Keep in mind many manufactures recommend their multi-vehicle ATF for DW-1. Like Amsoil, Redline, LiquiMoly, Valvoline, Pennzoil, Castrol. I doubt that they're all wrongDifferent additive composition - yes
Different end result - ???
Some love maxlife in theirs some love amsoil some use nothing but Honda, whose to know whether it makes enough difference to make a difference?
Has to be a reason why too. It would be simpler, less expensive, etc for Honda to build transmissions that used regular, Dexron-type ATF, but they don't.Different additive composition - yes
Plenty of people can feel the difference in shifting. Reality is, it's pretty much impossible to do a valid, side-by-side comparison.Different end result - ???
Zinc and magnesium. I do think that is for the synchronizers, Regular Dexron isn't going to kill the transmission by all means, you can run maxlife, but the only thing that will change is the shifting profile even if it does, it might not be noticeable. or if the transmission has less wear and it does.amounts of (2) (as I recall) components and no aftermarket ATFs come anywhere close. Why does Honda do this ? No one can publicly say, but they must be doing it for a reason.
YupOn older Honda products, there just might be more MaxLife running around than genuine Honda fluid.
Just a guess...
Analysis of the fluid says it is actually "special". Most Dexron-based ATFs are very similar with slight variations, but DW-1 is formulated with substantially different amounts of (2) (as I recall) components and no aftermarket ATFs come anywhere close. Why does Honda do this ? No one can publicly say, but they must be doing it for a reason.
ZF 8?past 10 years have the ZF9)
ZF9ZF 8?
Which cars from the last 10 years have used the ZF9?
Which cars from the last 10 years have used the ZF9?
Which cars from the last 10 years have used the ZF9?
Maxlife has worked great for me in 4 different auto Hondas.Well I searched online, but since I trust you guys more than some other random sources out there...
A older lady friend of mine is getting a used (obviously) 2003 Odyssey and I'm going to help her out with some basic service. One of which initially will be a drain and refill of the ATF.
I have a 2002 Toyota Sienna and I know you don't need Toyota ATF as Valvoline Maxlife works just fine. But I heard, or maybe I just dreamed it, that Honda transmissions are a little weird in that regard.
So I want to know is what after market ATF I can put in there that would most likely be compatible with whatever else is already in there, as I'm guessing that the Honda brand that Honda wants you to put in is probably a lot more expensive then say Valvoline Maxlife from Walmart.
But, if the Honda brand is the only magic fluid that is acceptable, then that is what I want to use.
Thanks
Here are the facts of the situation:That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works. Your emotions and baseless opinions do not constitute the facts of the situation.
Sounds like you said "no" and she didn't buy... which is a win right there.Well I searched online, but since I trust you guys more than some other random sources out there...
A older lady friend of mine is getting a used (obviously) 2003 Odyssey and I'm going to help her out with some basic service. One of which initially will be a drain and refill of the ATF.
I have a 2002 Toyota Sienna and I know you don't need Toyota ATF as Valvoline Maxlife works just fine. But I heard, or maybe I just dreamed it, that Honda transmissions are a little weird in that regard.
So I want to know is what after market ATF I can put in there that would most likely be compatible with whatever else is already in there, as I'm guessing that the Honda brand that Honda wants you to put in is probably a lot more expensive then say Valvoline Maxlife from Walmart.
But, if the Honda brand is the only magic fluid that is acceptable, then that is what I want to use.
Thanks
He already did, see my link a few posts up.It's interesting. I wonder if @MolaKule could explain