Based on those "Unanimous user reviews". You got me there, I can't compete against that.
Maxlife ATF Compatibility
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Carlostrece
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You're such a fast frantic poster that you typically reply before I can finish editing my posts. Please reread my prior post because I edited it.
You are correct that the reviews are typically referring to shifting quality/feel, which is subjective, but still matters, IMO. There is also one BITOG member who PM'd me about his Honda transmission failing 10K miles after switching to Maxlife ATF.
He said that happened years ago and maybe Maxlife ATF is better now.
He also said he wouldn't publicly post that here because he didn't want to be attacked by Maxlife fans. I'm beginning to see what he meant.
I suggest each person do their own research and decide for themself.
Carlostrece
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Maxlife ATF (Full Synthetic version) and the various vehicle specific Full Synthetic Idemitsu ATF are similar cost. Both brands cost much less than OEM ATF. Rockauto and NAPA are where I buy Idemitsu products. Walmart is where I buy Valvoline products.
There's no need to buy OEM brand ATF, in my opinion.
There's no need to buy OEM brand ATF, in my opinion.
MolaKule
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We had a long discussion some time ago with that member, and we are fully aware of the situation, so there is no need to thrice repeat it.
How many hundreds of thousands of other users have had no problems with Maxlife ATF in transmissions that had no internal transmission problems?
I would let that member speak for himself.
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What I’ll decide is if I believe that a commercial product like Maxlife caused a transmission to fail in 10k miles.
What Honda vehicles specifically?
The extremely poor quality ones in Accords/Odysseys from 98-02?
I've used Maxlife in multiple vehicles with wild success over a 15 year span except Dodges, which specify ATF+4.
I've never had a problem replacing the filter and fluid on a transmission that was operated correctly even if the original fluid was past125K miles. I've been using Maxlife due to good reviews and easily obtained at Walmart.
The only time I've ever heard of Maxlife not working so well was on a Lexus forum. Not sure why though.
The only time I've ever heard of Maxlife not working so well was on a Lexus forum. Not sure why though.
Carlostrece
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OK. Well each person use whatever ATF you prefer. I prefer Idemitsu ATF for Asian cars, but if someone else prefers Maxlife ATF or some other brand, that's fine with me. To each their own.
I used Maxlife ATF in both a 2000 Honda Odyssey and a 2002 Honda CR-V with no problems whatsoever. The transmission in the Odyssey went to ~300k+ miles and I sold the CR-V at ~186k miles. On the Odyssey, after going through the drain,fill, drain, fill cycle the 4 times initially, I went to changing out the 4 quarts that would drain every time i changed the engine oil.
Side note: on the CR-V, be sure to change the diff fluid frequently (that's not ATF fluid, however)
Side note: on the CR-V, be sure to change the diff fluid frequently (that's not ATF fluid, however)
Hi Glenda. Very helpful post. Thanks. After you did the complete ATF fluid change to MaxLife at 30k miles on the odometer, how many (if any) drain and fills after that did you do with MaxLife over the next 100,000 miles?
I actually did one recently. Every 30k would be ideal IMO. But I’ve been around every 50k. Fluid looks clean each time.
Thanks Glenda. In the Acura with the Honda TSB on the design defect on the unintended extra Transmission heat,
if the Honda ATF-DW1 couldn't take the heat after 10k to 20k miles, and Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic can easily take 50k with no shudder issues, then Maxlife is really a superior base oil.
I agree and that’s my opinion as well. It would return every 10-12k with the factory fluid.
This is an interesting BITOG post from @mannys9130 in which he had a good experience with Maxlife, but a great experience with
Idemitsu TLS-LV Full Synthetic ATF. In a 2012 Toyota Corolla, he did a used oil analysis on the Maxlife, and it was impressive, but he noticed smoother shifts when he switched to Idemitsu TLS-LV Full Synthetic ATF. I'm trying to find out more about this Idemitsu fluid.
Interesting. An oil cooler was also installed so there’s a couple variables. I’m sure Idemitsu is a great fluid.This is an interesting BITOG post from @mannys9130 in which he had a good experience with Maxlife, but a great experience with
Idemitsu TLS-LV Full Synthetic ATF. In a 2012 Toyota Corolla, he did a used oil analysis on the Maxlife, and it was impressive, but he noticed smoother shifts when he switched to Idemitsu TLS-LV Full Synthetic ATF. I'm trying to find out more about this Idemitsu fluid.
That is an amazing outcome. Those 1999-2004 Honda Odysseys were known to have transmission failures every 100k miles.
MaxLife ATF really gives your transmission it's MaxLife.
I'm tempted to just use Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 oil and Valvoline MaxLife Multi-vehicle Full Synthetic ATF.
I think that people get a bit starry eyed at Idemitsu due to the cool name and slight unicornism, and the fact that they market "individualized" fluids for different applications. But that doesn't mean it is technically better.
Another thing to consider about Idemitsu ATF fluid is it's cost is about 2.5 times as much as Valvoline MaxLife Multi-Vehicle Full Synthetic ATF.
MaxLife has had such steller reviews by so many customers across so many vehicles, I plan to stick with MaxLife.
Used to be that the Idemitsu was a stellar deal, then the price kept creeping up and up to the point where, at least for Honda's, it because a good bit cheaper to just do DW1 or Maxlife.
For what it is worth, I have become a firm believer that while exceptions certainly exist, in general clean fluid is far more important than what fluid.
I cooler line flushed my 2007 Camry at 60k miles from Toyota WS to Maxlife ATF and with 30k drain and fills she shifts and runs just as well now at 165k as she did then.
My 2012 Civic has received Honda DW-1 since new and with 30k drain and fills she shifts and runs just as well now at 132k as she did then. The difference in cost between DW-1 and Maxlife is minimal and sticking with it saves me the time and reason of having to flush the system to switch.
My 2018 Pilot has the 9-speed ZF9 which uses a very specific, ultra low-viscosity ATF. There is only one aftermarket option available that I am aware of (Pentosin ATF9) that was designed specifically to meet the same specifications. Because of that I shell out for the good stuff instead of trusting "multi-vehicle" claims like those of Maxlife. She gets 20k-25k drain and fills because the ZF9 likes to cook the fluid.
I would be willing to bet that if switching from fluid A to fluid B results in some noticeable change in how your standard 4- or 5-speed transmission runs then there is something more going on inside the box than the fluid formula.
I cooler line flushed my 2007 Camry at 60k miles from Toyota WS to Maxlife ATF and with 30k drain and fills she shifts and runs just as well now at 165k as she did then.
My 2012 Civic has received Honda DW-1 since new and with 30k drain and fills she shifts and runs just as well now at 132k as she did then. The difference in cost between DW-1 and Maxlife is minimal and sticking with it saves me the time and reason of having to flush the system to switch.
My 2018 Pilot has the 9-speed ZF9 which uses a very specific, ultra low-viscosity ATF. There is only one aftermarket option available that I am aware of (Pentosin ATF9) that was designed specifically to meet the same specifications. Because of that I shell out for the good stuff instead of trusting "multi-vehicle" claims like those of Maxlife. She gets 20k-25k drain and fills because the ZF9 likes to cook the fluid.
I would be willing to bet that if switching from fluid A to fluid B results in some noticeable change in how your standard 4- or 5-speed transmission runs then there is something more going on inside the box than the fluid formula.
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