What is the board's opinion on this??? I am sure we have all seen the add's in various automotive publications where they claim to have the ability to clean deposits out of an already dirty engine. So what do we all think of this? Has anyone tried to duplicate the deposit cleaning? I mean has anyone tossed it into a midly dirty engine and had it clean it right up?
PP and their Deposit Cleaning Add's?????
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Yes, I believe PP will clean soft deposits and is very good at resisting deposits. Mobil 1 states this as well and both oils meet Honda's new turbo spec. It's often over looked and something that won't show up in a UOA. Same could be said for Amsoil/RL etc.
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Mobil 1 EP also scores 3.9 on the industry standard TEOST test (part of GF-4, SM, Ford and Chrysler specs) to evaluate tendency to from sludge and deposits (36% less than regular M1 which scored a 5.3, and 676% less than Syntec's 26.4)
Mobil 1 EP also scores 3.9 on the industry standard TEOST test (part of GF-4, SM, Ford and Chrysler specs) to evaluate tendency to from sludge and deposits (36% less than regular M1 which scored a 5.3, and 676% less than Syntec's 26.4)
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Mobil 1 EP also scores 3.9 on the industry standard TEOST test (part of GF-4, SM, Ford and Chrysler specs) to evaluate tendency to from sludge and deposits (36% less than regular M1 which scored a 5.3, and 676% less than Syntec's 26.4)
Lower is better?
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Mobil 1 EP also scores 3.9 on the industry standard TEOST test (part of GF-4, SM, Ford and Chrysler specs) to evaluate tendency to from sludge and deposits (36% less than regular M1 which scored a 5.3, and 676% less than Syntec's 26.4)
Lower is better?
Yes, lower is better. That test applies more for turbos and high heat. Most cars probably dn't need that type of protection but it's good to know it is there.
Based on Syntecs poor numbers, I think it's safe to assume that it was one of the several oils that failed Honda's test. Syntec does not meet HTO-06. PP does.
Based on Syntecs poor numbers, I think it's safe to assume that it was one of the several oils that failed Honda's test. Syntec does not meet HTO-06. PP does.
Only three oils exist that are registered for HTO-06 applications. Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum and Petro-Canada Turbo 5w30, as far as I know.
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Yes, I believe PP will clean soft deposits and is very good at resisting deposits. Mobil 1 states this as well and both oils meet Honda's new turbo spec. It's often over looked and something that won't show up in a UOA. Same could be said for Amsoil/RL etc.
I thought rule of thumb was, no oil CLEANS an engine? But, if PP DOES clean up, I guess I can alternate PP with Pennzoil dino. The PP can clean the sludge the dino leaves behind!
Yes, I believe PP will clean soft deposits and is very good at resisting deposits. Mobil 1 states this as well and both oils meet Honda's new turbo spec. It's often over looked and something that won't show up in a UOA. Same could be said for Amsoil/RL etc.
I thought rule of thumb was, no oil CLEANS an engine? But, if PP DOES clean up, I guess I can alternate PP with Pennzoil dino. The PP can clean the sludge the dino leaves behind!
How well they clean is another story, but your better synthetics will clean soft deposits.
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Mobil 1 0W-40 keeps engines starting in Arctic-extreme cold, and it cleans deposits, sludge and varnish often formed in high temperature operating conditions.
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Mobil 1 0W-40 keeps engines starting in Arctic-extreme cold, and it cleans deposits, sludge and varnish often formed in high temperature operating conditions.
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How well they clean is another story, but your better synthetics will clean soft deposits.
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Mobil 1 0W-40 keeps engines starting in Arctic-extreme cold, and it cleans deposits, sludge and varnish often formed in high temperature operating conditions.
My engines have always been clean with M1 products.
How well they clean is another story, but your better synthetics will clean soft deposits.
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Mobil 1 0W-40 keeps engines starting in Arctic-extreme cold, and it cleans deposits, sludge and varnish often formed in high temperature operating conditions.
My engines have always been clean with M1 products.
My engine's have always been clean with SuperTech.
What daman said. Guess I'll be sticking with the M1 EP. My engine has always appeared very clean when looking thru the valve cover oil fill using M1 previously. Thanks,Buster. Now when I'm beaten up for using the EP,I can say it's also because of superior cleaning.
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I thought rule of thumb was, no oil CLEANS an engine? But, if PP DOES clean up, I guess I can alternate PP with Pennzoil dino. The PP can clean the sludge the dino leaves behind!
Yes but Penzoil claims the dino actively cleans as well so you'll be extra clean year round!
I thought rule of thumb was, no oil CLEANS an engine? But, if PP DOES clean up, I guess I can alternate PP with Pennzoil dino. The PP can clean the sludge the dino leaves behind!
Yes but Penzoil claims the dino actively cleans as well so you'll be extra clean year round!
I am always curious how we can tell if the engine is clean/dirty by looking in the fill cap. I am trying PP in a 4.6 with some soft deposits ( I Pulled valve cover and intake manifold after PCV failure) I hope their claims are true. I wonder if a group III or IV would have "gunked" as bad as the MC did. I know it was a PCV problem, and MC is worshiped here, but I was not impressed with the mess. Especially on 3k changes.
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