Just keep in mind the ESP 0w30 that is on shelves is not API SP like their online docs claim. Make sure the 5w30 is....
Please help me find a good oil for my application
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Thanks for the heads up. I’ll definitely make sure to check the label first.
If your car does not burn copious amounts of oil, no.
Mercedes-Benz 229.52 approval has a stringent LSPI test. API SP license is not needed.
I believe VW 504 00 does as well.
Plenty of boosted DI 4-bangers running high SAPS Euro xW40s without higher levels of intake valve deposits or LSPI issues. I think this is a bit of a boogie man. Just about every tuned-to-the-moon VW GTDI is running this stuff.
These engines don’t burn much oil.
But they do have high crankcase pressure and blow by through the PCV system.
Like all boosted high-performance 4 bangers. Your carbon/gunk intake valve build up is more of a function of how efficienty the oil/air separator in the PCV is than the type of oil you run.
**** now I’m back on debating Mobil 1 FS 0w40 vs the ESP 5w30 lol.
Both oils would be a good choice correct?
Would the full saps 0w40 offer more protection or any benefits over the ESP?
Is Porsche A40 better than C40?
If you have a catch can, you can get an idea of how much oil goes through the PCV system. I found that my 3.5EB moves about 0.75-1 oz of oil through the PCV every oil change during the summer. However, in winter, I found that the system collects roughly 1oz of oily emulsified snot per 1k miles. YMMV, I'm using HPL's No VII 5w30 Euro offering now and have no worries.
I think either is fine with the 40 grade providing marginally more protection I believe but this is splitting hairs and depends on your use case. Tracking it?
A40 vs C40 is essentially the same argument as A3/B4 vs C3.
I don’t buy into the catch can stuff. And my tuner advised against altering the PCV system. I can’t deny that the catch cans do catch something though. The catch cans might slow down IVD but won’t stop the problem. If I ever have any issues with IVD I suppose I’ll just clean the valves.
I agree with TiGeo here. You've got quite a few mods, 20+ psi of boost. I'd take the extra HTHS & MOFT of the 40 grade. Cats are cheap compared to engines.
No track use yet. But maybe in the future.
A killer bit of data on the VW EA888.3's PCV by a buddy of mine. TLDR - catch can generates it's own volume...most of the oil in that PCV drains back to the crankcase, not to the turbo inlet making these nearly worthless unless you run the plate in place of the factory PCV that blocks the intake port drain back path which also increases crankcase pressure under low/no-boost conditions which is bad.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kT0dL-k1hoEbZGsy6vQBs2-pHTWXO4dQ3QBrFMqcwD4/edit?usp=sharing
I think the cat concern with full SAPS is unfounded - lots of cars running this stuff or the last 20+ years and no cat issues I've ever read about.
Yeah that’s pretty much what my tuner said. He said these ecoboost don’t have the issues some older gen TGDI had and that IVD and LSPI weren’t of much concern. And that if the PCV system is functioning properly than I will be fine and that no catch can is needed.
Have a read about the VW PCV and what a catch can does I posted above.
Don't run a catch can - as you say, if factory PCV is doing it's job it's completely unnecessary.