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Pennzoil ultra 10w30 good for extreme winter cold?
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The Pennzoil is minus 47 F pour point. Ion amazon.it lists data..its pour point is minus 59 F. Flash point 435 F..its ccs 4,200 or 4,400. One of those two. But remember seeing its VI index...147. The 5w30 ultra VI index is like 167/169. That's spot more. But since the 10w30 is thin.or no,because its VI index is thicker? 147vs 167.
Yes, that's why there is a defined Cold Cranking and Pumpability Viscosity for each "W" rating in SAE J300. And they are both defined at a higher temperature than the pour point temperature.
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Which grade for the least consumption?
How would the 10w20 fair in typical NYC winters? Any 10W-xx is fine for >32F temps. Below that is debatable. Some diesel applications allow a 10W-xx down to 0F, but I have not seen this recommendation for gas applications.
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Toyota allowed the usage of conventional 10W-30 at temps above 0F in their 1MZ-FE engines. So, I think any synthetic 10W-30 should be fine down to 0F since they should have slightly better cold temp characteristics than their conventional counterparts.
I just did my upcoming winter OCI last week using PUP 0W20. So far, the engine is nice & quiet and smooth.
The only thing believable on that chart are 5w-30 and 0w-30.
Look at any other chart for oil viscosity and outdoor temperature and you'll find the same thing. Unless all the Petrochemical Engineers are wrong?
10w-XX has been used for many decades with temperatures lower than 32 degrees but you are entitled to your opinion..
Yes and a 10W winter rating.
What does VI have to do with anything, or pour point for that matter? You do understand the difference of taking a nearly-frozen beaker of oil and “pouring it” vs trying to suck it from the same beaker? You can’t “blend” winter properties of oils… if you mixed 1 qt 10w30 and 4 qts 0w30 your lower temperature limits will still be that of the 10w30 oil. You simply can’t get around that fact… so, either your climate allows for use of 10w30, or you should find an oil with a lower number winter rating and use it exclusively, not mixed.
It most certainly can be an issue since the oil fails the requirements for an oil with a 5W or 0W rating. The entire upper Midwest can have a problem in winter.
Never said it couldn't be used. Please read more carefully.
Ambient winter lows of -30 to -35 deg F happen every winter here. Sometimes the stretches of BELOW ZERO days total more than 60 to 90 and the weather girls stop mentioning the negatives, just giving the absolute numbers instead. It makes people "feel" better.
I typically run a 5W or a 0W oil here in southcentral Alaska. For 5W-30 oils, I run synthetics with CCS numbers at and below 4000 @ -30 deg C (Kirkland and QSFS).
This was my just-in-time winter post. We're supposed to have our first chance of snow in 3 days -- more than an inch.
The leaves have fallen; snow is coming.
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The syn 10W-30- will be fine in CT in winter, but like others I find the age of the oil a bit on in years at a decade old. Don't you have a lawn mower or snowblower to use this stuff in? Or give it to someone who does, use it for top off, etc.
Chrysler spec’d 10W-30 in the 3.5V6 and 4.0V6 engines. They were used thru the 2010 model year.
I was responding to your opinion if you did not comprehend. You should read more carefully.
Why not look at what the owners book says for your vehicle for oil use in extreme cold winter...I am sure they have a recommended oil to use...
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Yup - had a 2007 - at 140k the valve train went clunky and we towed it to a Mechanic who needed a kid’s car
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