Sorry if this is a repost. MSDS is available, no TDS exists. Dated 10/2011 so this is SN. Composition indicates the same as SM Ultra and Platinum, but maybe GTL would also be classified the same, if that's what the base oil now is.
Pennzoil Ultra 0W-20 exists
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PU 0W20 exits on paper only, nowhere to be found. Even 5W40 is hard to find at local stores.
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Sorry if this is a repost. MSDS is available, no TDS exists. Dated 10/2011 so this is SN.
I've seen one MSDS for it dated 10/26/2010. If it's taking them this long to bring a product to the market, I wouldn't be holding my breath... SOPUS seems to be the master of creating products on paper, but that's about it.
Sorry if this is a repost. MSDS is available, no TDS exists. Dated 10/2011 so this is SN.
I've seen one MSDS for it dated 10/26/2010. If it's taking them this long to bring a product to the market, I wouldn't be holding my breath... SOPUS seems to be the master of creating products on paper, but that's about it.
I don't believe PU 0W-20 was around before the SN reformulation. PP was there before, but I don't believe PU existed. According to dparm, PP 0W-20 is widely available in Pepboys in Chicago, so it's at least picking up in a large city. The fact that they've created a PU 0W-20 at least signifies they see significance in developing such a product. I think 0W-20 becoming common isn't so far away with Honda and Toyota headed in that direction as well as Ford.
EDIT: oops, I forgot to link the msds in the first post, and Pete is right, it's 10/2010. I still think 0W-20 will be common on store shelves in the next couple years.
http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GSAP_msds_00113583.PDF
EDIT: oops, I forgot to link the msds in the first post, and Pete is right, it's 10/2010. I still think 0W-20 will be common on store shelves in the next couple years.
http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GSAP_msds_00113583.PDF
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With a pour point of only -34C it's not a 0W oil or even a 5W oil; perhaps a 10W.
But then SOPUS isn't know for accuracy of it's MSDS and PDS data.
But then SOPUS isn't know for accuracy of it's MSDS and PDS data.
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I have an idea, that the owner(s) of BITOG work a deal with SOPUS to sell their boutique(slow selling) oils to BITOG members.
Maybe the owners could make some cash.
Maybe the owners could make some cash.
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
Originally Posted By: dave1251
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
PU 0w40 is available at Chrysler dealers now?
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
PU 0w40 is available at Chrysler dealers now?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Sorry if this is a repost. MSDS is available, no TDS exists. Dated 10/2011 so this is SN.
I've seen one MSDS for it dated 10/26/2010. If it's taking them this long to bring a product to the market, I wouldn't be holding my breath... SOPUS seems to be the master of creating products on paper, but that's about it.
I have had SOPUS deliver this product to me. Even though I use Royal Purple right now...if I had to use 0w20 I'll go with Mobil. Pennzoil Ultra is over rated IMO.
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Sorry if this is a repost. MSDS is available, no TDS exists. Dated 10/2011 so this is SN.
I've seen one MSDS for it dated 10/26/2010. If it's taking them this long to bring a product to the market, I wouldn't be holding my breath... SOPUS seems to be the master of creating products on paper, but that's about it.
I have had SOPUS deliver this product to me. Even though I use Royal Purple right now...if I had to use 0w20 I'll go with Mobil. Pennzoil Ultra is over rated IMO.
Originally Posted By: addyguy
PU 0W-20 and 0W-40 are 'paper' oils only..they've published specs for 'if' they blended them, but haven't, and I doubt they ever will.
0w20 is not paper oil, as I have had it delived to my shop and I have USED it. As for 0w40...never seen it and never heard of it. Have asked SOPUS many times to deliver it to me and they keep on telling me that it is not in production..
PU 0W-20 and 0W-40 are 'paper' oils only..they've published specs for 'if' they blended them, but haven't, and I doubt they ever will.
0w20 is not paper oil, as I have had it delived to my shop and I have USED it. As for 0w40...never seen it and never heard of it. Have asked SOPUS many times to deliver it to me and they keep on telling me that it is not in production..
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: dave1251
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
PU 0w40 is available at Chrysler dealers now?
I wish I knew for sure.
HOUSTON, June 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, Pennzoil® is introducing the new Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 synthetic motor oil, created alongside Chrysler Group engineers specifically to keep SRT engines running clean. The advanced, co-engineered formulation is the result of months of collaboration between Pennzoil scientists and Chrysler Group engineers to develop a motor oil that provides the performance that SRT owners have come to expect from their high-tech engines. Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 is the motor oil Chrysler recommends for use in all SRT engines, exceeding the stringent Chrysler MS-12633 specification
Source: PR Newswire
Originally Posted By: dave1251
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
PU 0w40 is available at Chrysler dealers now?
I wish I knew for sure.
HOUSTON, June 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, Pennzoil® is introducing the new Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 synthetic motor oil, created alongside Chrysler Group engineers specifically to keep SRT engines running clean. The advanced, co-engineered formulation is the result of months of collaboration between Pennzoil scientists and Chrysler Group engineers to develop a motor oil that provides the performance that SRT owners have come to expect from their high-tech engines. Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 is the motor oil Chrysler recommends for use in all SRT engines, exceeding the stringent Chrysler MS-12633 specification
Source: PR Newswire
If your Chrysler dealership can not get it for you this place can.
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Also evidently this is the Mopar part # for Ultra 0W40
Please use Mopar part number 68171067PA
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Also evidently this is the Mopar part # for Ultra 0W40
Please use Mopar part number 68171067PA
IIRC the PU 0W-40 spec's do give the bench mark M1 0W-40 a run for the money. So yes it's a welcome addition to the market place. But at 9 bucks/qt I'd still stick with M1 at typically $6/qt.
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: addyguy
PU 0W-20 and 0W-40 are 'paper' oils only..they've published specs for 'if' they blended them, but haven't, and I doubt they ever will.
0w20 is not paper oil, as I have had it delived to my shop and I have USED it. As for 0w40...never seen it and never heard of it. Have asked SOPUS many times to deliver it to me and they keep on telling me that it is not in production..
Odd. I wrote Pennzoil a few weeks ago on the 0-20 PU and I was told maybe in 9-12 months. Maybe later for the consumer market?
Originally Posted By: addyguy
PU 0W-20 and 0W-40 are 'paper' oils only..they've published specs for 'if' they blended them, but haven't, and I doubt they ever will.
0w20 is not paper oil, as I have had it delived to my shop and I have USED it. As for 0w40...never seen it and never heard of it. Have asked SOPUS many times to deliver it to me and they keep on telling me that it is not in production..
Odd. I wrote Pennzoil a few weeks ago on the 0-20 PU and I was told maybe in 9-12 months. Maybe later for the consumer market?
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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
IIRC the PU 0W-40 spec's do give the bench mark M1 0W-40 a run for the money. So yes it's a welcome addition to the market place. But at 9 bucks/qt I'd still stick with M1 at typically $6/qt.
Still, spec sheets are only one part of the equation. Always good to run it and get a UOA.
IIRC the PU 0W-40 spec's do give the bench mark M1 0W-40 a run for the money. So yes it's a welcome addition to the market place. But at 9 bucks/qt I'd still stick with M1 at typically $6/qt.
Still, spec sheets are only one part of the equation. Always good to run it and get a UOA.
OK...so, here's a question, at $3.96/QT for Pennzoil Ultra 5W30, what would you run?
This is somewhat academic...I just bought 4 boxes of 6 Qts each at that price, so I KNOW what I am going to run in the near future...
This is somewhat academic...I just bought 4 boxes of 6 Qts each at that price, so I KNOW what I am going to run in the near future...
For $4/qt I would run it.
Originally Posted By: Astro14
OK...so, here's a question, at $3.96/QT for Pennzoil Ultra 5W30, what would you run?
This is somewhat academic...I just bought 4 boxes of 6 Qts each at that price, so I KNOW what I am going to run in the near future...
Thats a great price.
OK...so, here's a question, at $3.96/QT for Pennzoil Ultra 5W30, what would you run?
This is somewhat academic...I just bought 4 boxes of 6 Qts each at that price, so I KNOW what I am going to run in the near future...
Thats a great price.
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: dave1251
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
PU 0w40 is available at Chrysler dealers now?
I wish I knew for sure.
HOUSTON, June 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, Pennzoil® is introducing the new Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 synthetic motor oil, created alongside Chrysler Group engineers specifically to keep SRT engines running clean. The advanced, co-engineered formulation is the result of months of collaboration between Pennzoil scientists and Chrysler Group engineers to develop a motor oil that provides the performance that SRT owners have come to expect from their high-tech engines. Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 is the motor oil Chrysler recommends for use in all SRT engines, exceeding the stringent Chrysler MS-12633 specification
Source: PR Newswire
LOL Or they just rebadged Shell Helix Ultra 0W-40...
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: dave1251
You can get their 40 grade offerings from your local Chrysler dealer more often than not. But I do not have a reason to buy a 0/5W40 oil.
PU 0w40 is available at Chrysler dealers now?
I wish I knew for sure.
HOUSTON, June 5, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Today, Pennzoil® is introducing the new Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 synthetic motor oil, created alongside Chrysler Group engineers specifically to keep SRT engines running clean. The advanced, co-engineered formulation is the result of months of collaboration between Pennzoil scientists and Chrysler Group engineers to develop a motor oil that provides the performance that SRT owners have come to expect from their high-tech engines. Pennzoil Ultra™ 0W-40 is the motor oil Chrysler recommends for use in all SRT engines, exceeding the stringent Chrysler MS-12633 specification
Source: PR Newswire
LOL Or they just rebadged Shell Helix Ultra 0W-40...
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