M1 0w-20 EP or a better value 0w-20?

[ATex7239]

I prefer to let sleeping dogs lie most of the time. If the level on the dip stick isn’t going up and the vehicles are running well on 5K OCI w/M1 EP then I’d probably just keep doing what appears to be working. Sometimes we make things more complicated than it really needs to be.

 

[kschachn]

I prefer to let sleeping dogs lie most of the time. If the level on the dip stick isn’t going up and the vehicles are running well on 5K OCI w/M1 EP then I’d probably just keep doing what appears to be working. Sometimes we make things more complicated than it really needs to be.

In other words, ignorance is bliss?

I actually don’t disagree with you for most things, but fuel dilution is not the benign phenomenon that some people think that it is. For me that’s one thing I personally want to keep an eye on.

 

[ATex7239]

In other words, ignorance is bliss?

I actually don’t disagree with you for most things, but fuel dilution is not the benign phenomenon that some people think that it is. For me that’s one thing I personally want to keep an eye on.

I wouldn’t say it is benign just not worth searching for without evidence to support the need for searching.

 

[Slick3914]

Thanks, I'll stick with the M1 0w-20 and 3k intervals then

Here’s a nice deal

Robot or human?

 

[wemay]

Dilution is definitely an issue, but at 3k mile oci, I wouldn't worry about it.

M1EP is a great choice. As are the others you mentioned, OP.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Wemay
Rockauto sells the Champ XL cheap. It's a twin to your STP. You can mix-in a few AC Delcos too.

 

[wemay]

Wemay
Rockauto sells the Champ XL cheap. It's a twin to your STP. You can mix-in a few AC Delcos too.

Tempting but my last couple orders from RA didn't go so well.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I had a problem with R/A once. They shipped 4 nitrile ADBV filters - despite the pictured filter at their website being Silicone. Being I do 3k OCIs, I kept them because R/A wanted me to pay for return shipping.

I told them they should be notifying customers (before shipping) by email or phone, when pictured products go thru important changes that can affect a Kia or Hyundai's start-up sound, cold start oil flow and/or filter performance.

 

[wemay]

I had a problem with R/A once. They shipped 4 nitrile ADBV filters - despite the pictured filter at their website being Silicone. Being I do 3k OCIs, I kept them because R/A wanted me to pay for return shipping.

I told them they should be notifying customers (before shipping) by email or phone, when pictured products go thru important changes that can affect a Kia or Hyundai's start-up sound, cold start oil flow and/or filter performance.

Mine had to do with the condition of the filters upon arrival. If my memory serves me correctly on the numbers, three of eight filters were dented and one of the eight had noticeable rust.

 

[bbhero]

Mine had to do with the condition of the filters upon arrival. If my memory serves me correctly on the numbers, three of eight filters were dented and one of the eight had noticeable rust.

That was the famous RA scratch and dent sale they don’t tell you about beforehand..

 

[4WD]

I do have access to unlimited stock of free Mercedes Benz 0w-20 but unsure if I want to use it due to potentially lacking some certifications

This stuff: https://www.ebay.com/itm/144636635755

Looks like Mobil is making that MB oil …

 

[02zx9r rev2]

I do have access to unlimited stock of free Mercedes Benz 0w-20 but unsure if I want to use it due to potentially lacking some certifications

This stuff: https://www.ebay.com/itm/144636635755

If I had access to unlimited free MB branded 0W20, I know what oil I would be running until I no longer had access to said free oil

 

[ChrisD46]

We have two of the newer generation Hondas with 1.5t engines in the household and despite the wife's 2023 CRV being driven only 5k a year she does not have any oil dilution and neither does my 17k a year 2022 Civic (I get the same 3.75qt out as I put in for both cars). I have been doing 5k intervals but recently decided to move to 3k after watching a few videos from Engineering Explained, Car Care Nut, and a few other. For her car it'll be good since I will basically change it every 6 months, and for my car I like the idea of running cleaner oil through the turbo and its associated systems to minimize potential for any contaminants to hang around long term. Filters on both cars are PLM-A02 changed at every interval.

Any reason to use Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra Platinum instead of M1 EP for our use case? Currently getting the M1 EP for under $5 a quart but would consider something else in this price range if its notably better. Not interested in spending big bucks on Amsoil or HPL etc. I went back and forth on whether to move to 5w-30 but seeing as neither of our cars has issues with 0w-20 I decided to stick with specced

I believe M1 5W30 EP is the best deal going from a local store (WM $26 per 5 qrt. jug)