oil quality labelling

[bonjo]

I recently learned that in germany you cannot labelan oil as full synthetic unless it is group 4 or 5.

I managed to compare english & german PDS of the same product and sure enough Mob FS 0w40 is labelled as synthetic technology; similar to liquimoly, valvoline, motul (not the 8100 power range).

 

[Kalle.J]

Yes old news.

Oil sold in germany needs to be 80%+ lab synthetic to be called "VOLLSYNTHESE".
Very few oils reach that requirement.

Synthetisches Öl – Wikipedia

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Thread 'German oil fullsynthetic and synthesetechnologie'

Aug 20, 2012

Dear friend i just noticed that in Germany any oil are labelled like "full synthetic" (VOLLSYNTHESE) (ex.:Castrol 0w30) and other "synthetic technology" (synthesetechnologie) (Mobil 1 0w40, all 5w30 and all 5w40, etc.). The problem is that all German Oil labelled as synthesetechnologie are the same oil labelled full synthetic in Italy. So I can assume that in Germany the label rules are more astringent.

The point is: the 98% of top oil are labelled as synthesetechnologie and very very few oils are labelled fullsynthetic so I can imagine that, in practice, is the same thing. Is it right...

• Vincenzo_f
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• Forum: European and Import Motor Oils

 

[kschachn]

Yes old news.

To say the least.

And beyond that, it isn't necessarily a quality label. It is a basic composition label which may or may not be reflected in quality. Base stock composition does not automatically equate to quality of a formulated oil. Lots of people seem to be disappointed by that.;

 

[Pablo]

To say the least.

And beyond that, it isn't necessarily a quality label. It is a basic composition label which may or may not be reflected in quality.

Can we just shut this thread down now?

I mean before the real synthetic dead horse beating starts and then goes into all the "chemists" figuring oil out. And claiming a winner.

Well maybe we can have @kschachn list the last 50 or so repeated threads.

 

[Hoster987]

Eagerly waiting for the 25 year old lawsuit details to pop up again

 

[ARCOgraphite]

And the Chemists in lab coats producing that name brand Fully Synthetic Motor Oil in a lab ...

Hurry up Edgar !
The Boss needs 27,000 liters more to make this week's shipment to WPp for packaging !

 

[bonjo]

thanks kall for confirming my suspicion!
Agree, not all oil are created the same irrespective of label.

I will now always consult the german PDS first!
PS PETRONAS Syntium 7000 (probably not available in the us) appears to have a proper synthetic label