Oil filter confusion

[SC Maintenance]

I guess I'm going to have to go look for leaks. I have hundreds on aftermarket filters installed on equipment and vehicles that I own and have installed thousands in my career. I can count the number of filter issues I have experienced on one hand with fingers left over.

I agree.

Most likely cause of leak is the old gasket is still there. Or the new gasket does not seal. Both should have been caught by the installer.

I have never seen a filter leak any other way. Possibly if they rust through? The thickest can I think is Hengst?

 

[Creekside]

I agree.

Most likely cause of leak is the old gasket is still there. Or the new gasket does not seal. Both should have been caught by the installer.

I have never seen a filter leak any other way. Possibly if they rust through? The thickest can I think is Hengst?

The worst one I had was a gasket blowout on a Iveco engine in a New Holland wheel loader on startup immediately after a service. The old gasket was still on the old filter. I caught it within a few seconds of startup when I saw the leak and by the time I shut it down the oil pressure light had just come on. Swapped it out with an OEM filter and never had another issue. I wanted to cut the problem child open but the manufacturer wanted it complete to warranty it(naturally when we sent it off they said it was fine and we got no reimbursement). Don't know what happened and it never happened again. Gasket was in place on the new filter when installed.

 

[ATex7239]

The F1 is the right filter. And vertically mounted so lots of room for the longer one.

 

[ATex7239]

Ok I raffed.

Man your battle stations!

 

[ARCOgraphite]

I didn't ask this question for people to be telling me to use aftermarket oil filters. I asked if the Toyota oil filter 90915YZZN1 oil filter has the same thread size as N3 and if N1 will fit if it currently has N3.

I had a "poor flow" issue with a Toyota oil filter. One of the reasons I joined two decades ago. Got no help here just haranging, LOL
p/n 90915-10003

 

[CleanSump]

OP @mattbruns3, go to the dealer and ask them to look up the correct filter for you. You're wasting time here.

 

[SC Maintenance]

The worst one I had was a gasket blowout on a Iveco engine in a New Holland wheel loader on startup immediately after a service. The old gasket was still on the old filter. I caught it within a few seconds of startup when I saw the leak and by the time I shut it down the oil pressure light had just come on. Swapped it out with an OEM filter and never had another issue. I wanted to cut the problem child open but the manufacturer wanted it complete to warranty it(naturally when we sent it off they said it was fine and we got no reimbursement). Don't know what happened and it never happened again. Gasket was in place on the new filter when installed.

Yes, they puke fast with a double gasket. I only did it once - I think PH8A on a Ford inline 6, and I bet it dumped a quart between starting it and walking around to look under.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Is there a difference between 3/4"-16 UNF and Metric M16 x 1.5?

Yes, very much. There not even close. 3/4 inch is about 19mm vs 16mm. Threads per inch is actually pretty close.

 

[Sayjac]

..... Microgard has poor flow......

Source, citing?

 

[Creekside]

Is there a difference between 3/4"-16 UNF and Metric M16 x 1.5? I don't know who to believe. My car currently has N3 but every other source says to use F1 or N1 but they have different thread sizes. I don't know who could give me assurances on that.

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Stop using AI generated info. It is notoriously wrong. Put the numbers in an ACTUAL FILTER MANUFACTURERS CROSS REFERENCE like two of us have already done any provided you with the answer. According to Wix both of those numbers you provided cross to filters with the same thread.

 

[ATex7239]

Is there a difference between 3/4"-16 UNF and Metric M16 x 1.5? I don't know who to believe. My car currently has N3 but every other source says to use F1 or N1 but they have different thread sizes. I don't know who could give me assurances on that.

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AI sources should not be blindly trusted. The AI data sourcing function is referring/aggregating something from others sources which could be a some yahoo on a forum like me.

 

[SC Maintenance]

AI sources should not be blindly trusted. The AI data sourcing function is referring/aggregating something from others sources which could be a some yahoo on a forum like me.

Google pays reddit $60M a year to use Reddit "data" to train there AI models.

Let that sink in.

 

[Pablo]

Google pays reddit $60M a year to use Reddit "data" to train there AI models.

Let that sink in.

GIGO!

 

[BrendanC]

i am at a loss for words. for someone that implies that they are very technically educated then to ask if 3/4-16 is the same as M16 baffles me.

i gave you the OEM as well as after market filter part numbers. the carquest filters and the mobil 1 filters are both higher efficiency and higher quality than an OEM filter. denso produces toyota’s OEM filters. Champ/fram WAS the oem for Honda, gm, M+H/purolator was and is the OEM for ford motorcraft.

get off of AI, get educated and stop blasting mid-information on a form that people rely on to make informed decisions. the Microguard select filters don’t leak, none of the above filters are restrictive and OEM isn’t the gold standard.

 

[Creekside]

i am at a loss for words. for someone that implies that they are very technically educated then to ask if 3/4-16 is the same as M16 baffles me.

i gave you the OEM as well as after market filter part numbers. the carquest filters and the mobil 1 filters are both higher efficiency and higher quality than an OEM filter. denso produces toyota’s OEM filters. Champ/fram WAS the oem for Honda, gm, M+H/purolator was and is the OEM for ford motorcraft.

get off of AI, get educated and stop blasting mid-information on a form that people rely on to make informed decisions. the Microguard select filters don’t leak, none of the above filters are restrictive and OEM isn’t the gold standard.

I’m thinking this entire thread is rage bait at this point.

 

[BHopkins]

You probably don't belong on this forum if that is your prevailing belief. Numerous members on this board have dissected and technically evaluated OEM and aftermarket filters to disprove your assumptions.

Not cool, man. This site is all about members with different understandings and experiences, coming together to share and learn from one another.

Frankly, with all the issues that have been found with many of the mainstream aftermarket oil filter brands, I've wondered if the best option is to stick with OE filters. And yes, I totally understand that OE filters are made by the same companies and in the same manufacturing plants, as the aftermarket filters.

I hope no one tells me I don't belong here, when the day comes that I make a statement that isn't agreeable with the majority.

 

[BrendanC]

Not cool, man. This site is all about members with different understandings and experiences, coming together to share and learn from one another.

Frankly, with all the issues that have been found with many of the mainstream aftermarket oil filter brands, I've wondered if the best option is to stick with OE filters. And yes, I totally understand that OE filters are made by the same companies and in the same manufacturing plants, as the aftermarket filters.

I hope no one tells me I don't belong here, when the day comes that I make a statement that isn't agreeable with the majority.

while i don’t agree with the “don’t belong here” post


filters are an ever moving target. that is where the members of the oil filter sub form come in. i provide MANY cut and pastes almost weekly showing what is good at the moment. if you were a trust OEM only, the fram leaf spring issues found their way into the ACDelco filters, the M+H tearing and glue issues found their way into the Motorcraft filters.

read the form you joined. premium guard has a basically perfect track record as of now. i know the day is coming where that isn’t the case but they are the best on the market today (unless you can find a fleetguard or donaldson in your size).

 

[BHopkins]

while i don’t agree with the “don’t belong here” post


filters are an ever moving target. that is where the members of the oil filter sub form come in. i provide MANY cut and pastes almost weekly showing what is good at the moment. if you were a trust OEM only, the fram leaf spring issues found their way into the ACDelco filters, the M+H tearing and glue issues found their way into the Motorcraft filters.

read the form you joined. premium guard has a basically perfect track record as of now. i know the day is coming where that isn’t the case but they are the best on the market today (unless you can find a fleetguard or donaldson in your size).

Absolutely agree. I'm just making the point that it is easy to understand how members here come to different conclusions. Otherwise we would all fall in line and all be using the same oils and filters. But we don't.

Just don't tell me, or anyone else, that they don't belong here because their interpretation of the data is different, perhaps even odd. And yes, I'm using the word data pretty loosely here.

 

[Hirev]

OP just go to a Toyota dealer parts counter and get the correct filter for your car it is simple and painless.

 

[mattbruns3]

OP @mattbruns3, go to the dealer and ask them to look up the correct filter for you. You're wasting time here

OP just go to a Toyota dealer parts counter and get the correct filter for your car it is simple and painless.

You people keep telling me to go to the dealer but it's a distance from me. Walmart is closer. I ask a question and all I get is attacks.