Oil Extracator Versus conventional drain method.

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Not too bad from what i know, its a new (to me) car so i dont know.


Thanks for the reply, im conflicted for sure on this one....
 
Extractor is easier and you don't have to get under the car, but I have to think that draining it out of the bottom helps it "sweep" out contaminants.
 
Isn't it the oil's job to keep the contaminants in suspension?

I think as long as you extract the oil immediately after a long drive, it should not matter which method you use.
 
The best way is to get the oil nice and hot and then pull the drain plug; even better if you can tilt the car in the direction of the drain.
 
In some apps, the extractor gets more than draining does. I know a guy who did nothing but extractions on a A4 1.8t after 5 y/o 60k he pulled the pan for a gasket and it had nothing on the bottom. This is a guy who I trust.
 
I would think it would be better to get a set of ramps and one of those drain valves that replaces your plug. Personally I can't stand the thought of leaving a bit of dirty oil in there...
 
The extractor will leave 1/2 to 1 QT of oil in the pan. People with boats are mostly forced to use an extractor as they cannot get under the engine(s) with a drain pan, much less reach the drain plug.

But those that can will try and use the drain plug to get all the old oil out. I for one have a Jabsco hose connected to my oil drain plug and use an extractor to pull the oil from it, rather than going down the oil dipstick.

But on a car, I cannot see using an oil extractor, just use the oil drain plug.
 
I will say that if you possess one of those cars where the drain plug is nearly inaccessible or you can easily burn yourself on the nearby exhaust (see "Worst Car You've Ever Changed Oil On" thread), then one of these would be a godsend.
 
The first I've heard of extractors was when I joined the Mercedes forums. At first I thought it was an odd way to change oil (and still do). I believe this is an evolutionary thing where Mercedes dealers started using this method of changing oil because it helped the work flow in the dealership. They could change the oil without moving the car over to a special oil bay.

Now the manufacturers sometimes design the cars with the expectation of having the oil changed via extractor. With some car designs, pulling the oil plug directs the oil stream onto rubber suspension components - not a good thing. And counterintuitively, as Auto Union mentioned, extraction can sometimes remove more oil than the drain plug. This can be verified by draining the oil via extractor, then pulling the drain plug to see if any more comes out.

It won't be long before oil pan drain plugs go the way of transmission drain plugs and disappear.
 
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It won't be long before oil pan drain plugs go the way of transmission drain plugs and disappear.


I'd drill and tap my own hole then.
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The Spectre 5971 system uses the drain plug as the point of extraction. So there's no concern about leaving anything. It's on sale right now for $24.95 (unfortunately just under the $25 threshold for free shipping - so buy a DVD or something too). This is down from it's typical price of $40+. It happens every so often. They must order them by the lot and liquidate them when they only have a few left. The hardware is worth more than the $25 you spend.

Just put "oil change kit" in the Amazon search engine. You get everything you need for oil extraction PLUS much more. If you are considering a bypass filter ..the extraction tubing is a great return point.

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Do people reralize many cars have a belly pan that must be removed to drain? On the A4, the filter is accessible from above (below the coolant reservior) and the combo of top filter servicec w/ extractor mans a novice and do a synth oil and filter change w/o putting a knee on the ground for about $25.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
The Spectre 5971 system uses the drain plug as the point of extraction. So there's no concern about leaving anything. It's on sale right now for $24.95 (unfortunately just under the $25 threshold for free shipping - so buy a DVD or something too). This is down from it's typical price of $40+. It happens every so often. They must order them by the lot and liquidate them when they only have a few left. The hardware is worth more than the $25 you spend.

Just put "oil change kit" in the Amazon search engine. You get everything you need for oil extraction PLUS much more. If you are considering a bypass filter ..the extraction tubing is a great return point.


Wow...I really like that idea, unfortunately it's already back up to 40 bucks. Seems worth it though, an oil filter relocation kit alone is at least $25.
 
I've used both methods on the same vehicle and the EXACT same amount of fluid is removed. Basically, if you're on this site , then you change your oil with normal frequency and the extractor is fine. Just look at the many who leave a filter on for 2 or more changes w/o any damage? Oils are far superior now than just several years ago with ISO-SYN processes yielding almost a syn-blend. TOPSIDER is the way to go. I bought mine for tranny changes on vehicles w/o drain plugs but would use it for motor oil w/o losing any sleep.
 
Just keep checking it. Sooner or later it will be $24.95 again. Perhaps there was a mad rush after this thread
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The above statement that an extractor leaves 1/2 to 1 quart is too general. In some applications a vacuum pump will get it all and others it may get more than pulling the drain plug. You just have to try your vehicle and see. If it makes the job easier and you do several vehicles it's the way to go. I was a skeptic until someone loaned me one. After the first test, using the pump and then pulling the drain plug and not getting more than a few drops, I bought one. Then I bought a better one, one from Griot's catalog. It's worth every dollar, works great.
 
Some cars, I'll pull the plug after extraction and get ZERO drops. Others, like MiL's Windstar, I can't get the dipstick tube in. Maybe we should get a thread going with reference of how it works in various cars so people can get an idea if it's for them. iirc, my new Accord 2.4 leaves a good bit behind. Funnty thing, on the 1.8t, you have to pull the dipstick back outwards to get the last 8oz. Pushed in too far, you will suck air.
 
I did the drain pan thing for years, until the plastic drain pan began to leak -- a steady stream of oil. Thank the gods it did that before I put it in my trunk to take it to recycling!

And for those of us who have no place to put ramps or to deploy them, and/or with cars that have belly pans, an oil extractor is a fantastic thing. In theory, if your car has a filter you can reach from on top like my Mercedes, you could drain your car's oil without changing out of good clothes.

My Topsider got 5.5 quarts out of my C230's crankcase, which was supposed to hold 6. I didn't do extended drains, so I think there was very little left in the engine at each change that could cause any troubles.

As far as my 420SEL, a V-8 w/ 8 quarts in it: I did Topsider changes on it for two years. A few months before the car was totalled, I had to have the oil pan replaced -- it had been dented by something in one of these cart tracks New Orleans pretends are roads, and was leaking. My regular mechanic said the old pan, and the inside of the engine (with almost 200K on it), were as clean as the proverbial whistle.

I only wish I could extract the oil from my Buick and change the filter from on top!
 
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