Oil choice for 2 Ecoboosts

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At 63,000 miles, my 2.7 has had a steady diet of Motorcraft 5w30 semi syn every 7000/7500 miles. I got the mileage OCI from analysis and the oil brand from the owners manual and backed that up with an example of the highest mileage 2.7 I'm aware of. Pat's 2016 2.7 uses the Motorcraft semi syn and gets changed when the truck tells him to....which works out to every 10k. Pat's truck recently turned 400,000 miles.
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/100-000-mile-2-7-a-389552/index33/#post6699857
 
jaredarcher said:
I have thought about havoline as well, just never heard much about them. I know they have to at least be decent considering the parent company.

I run the motorcraft filters on both trucks and plan to stick with that brand.

I have thought of using higher quality oils at a yearly interval but the fuel dilution I'd have would make me nervous. My 3-5 month interval usually equates to 2500-3500 miles so I know the mileage isn't an issue, just the hours of low speed/idle time.

As a last note to JohnnyJohnson, we both drive trucks because we use the bed of them on a weekly basis. If we didn't need a truck, we'd buy something else. Of course, I really don't need to justify our decision to both own trucks. Chances are, we'd still own trucks even if they weren't being used for anything other than commuting. But to ease your mind, yes, we do need 2 trucks.
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Yeah but it's just that there's a multitude of people out there that don't need pick-ups, very wasteful. You may or may not be justified in owning two of them. Seems like you may be able to get by with one. Obviously your call but just saying.
 
I would stay with the 5w30 Magnatec since it seems to have always worked well with the Ecoboost engines. Also your 3-5 month intervals seem appropriate.
 
madeej11 said:
Yeah but it's just that there's a multitude of people out there that don't need pick-ups, very wasteful. You may or may not be justified in owning two of them. Seems like you may be able to get by with one. Obviously your call but just saying.
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It's strange how I ask about oil, but for some it turns into a question of how many pickups I need. Let's not read into it too far, as I'm not going to give anyone every personal detail to prove I need one or two. Maybe you don't need a pickup. Maybe you do. But that doesn't mean I don't need two of them. Heck, I actually WANT a 3rd one.

Also, a "wants vs needs" debate isn't a fun one. Lots of hypocrisy in it. So let's stay away from those debates.

So, now that that is out of the way, let's stick to the topic at hand.
 
jaredarcher said:
So I have 2 Ecoboost F150s. One is my daily driver and the other is my wife's.

My truck is a 2019 2.7L with about 7500 miles on it. I drive 3 miles each way to work 5 days a week with a highway run of about an hour mixed in once a week. I did my first oil change at 1000 miles, second at 4000, and third at 7000. Besides the factory fill, it's had Castrol Magnatec 5w-30.

My wife's truck is a 2015 3.5L with about 58k miles on it. Her daily commute is 2 miles to work, 2 miles home at lunch, 2 miles back to work, then 2 miles home again. We do a 1-2 hour highway run every weekend. We bought it from a Ford dealer at 55k and dumped the MC blend at 57k and I switched it over to Magnatec as well.

Our commutes are probably the worst on oil, so I plan to change it every 3-5 months. Should I stick with the Magnatec or switch to a much cheaper Supertech or Kirkland since the intervals are so short?
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Within dollars of the Magnatec you can buy Castrol EDGE 0W-40 at Walmart. Your turbos are hard on oil, especially during commutes. Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 is also a good choice. Both have identical certifications. They are unbelievable oils for the price and you will get an excellent service life out of your vehicles if you use them. When you pick and choose amongst the large variety of 5W-30 ILSAC oils it's like picking between different varieties of Lays potato chips. When you step up to a 0W-40 Euro spec motor oil it's like moving from Lays potato chips to sirloin steak with french fries and buttermilk pickles.
 
YogiTheCat said:
Within dollars of the Magnatec you can buy Castrol EDGE 0W-40 at Walmart. Your turbos are hard on oil, especially during commutes. Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 is also a good choice. Both have identical certifications. They are unbelievable oils for the price and you will get an excellent service life out of your vehicles if you use them. When you pick and choose amongst the large variety of 5W-30 ILSAC oils it's like picking between different varieties of Lays potato chips. When you step up to a 0W-40 Euro spec motor oil it's like moving from Lays potato chips to sirloin steak with french fries and buttermilk pickles.
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I haven't thought about different weights. I'll have to do some more research on the 0w-40s. I've always been the type that sticks with what the manufacturer recommends as far as weight goes. I'm intrigued. I'll certainly look into those two options.
 
But isn’t the 0w40 higher in calcium, thus more lspi prone? It’s a good oil, but magnatec is proven in eco boosts and other engines that are hard on oil.

Not saying 0w40 isn’t good, but it seems like you’re pushing it pretty hard.
 
BTLew81 said:
But isn’t the 0w40 higher in calcium, thus more lspi prone? It’s a good oil, but magnatec is proven in eco boosts and other engines that are hard on oil.

Not saying 0w40 isn’t good, but it seems like you’re pushing it pretty hard.
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Both oils are certified for Turbo engines, both gasoline and Diesel. LSPI is misunderstood a lot because brainwashing. Neither Castrol EDGE 0W-40 nor Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 will cause LSPI issues. Additive packages in a fully formulated motor oil are created to work together. They have more Calcium Carbonate, but they also have more ZDDP which mitigates LSPI. The watery ILSAC oils have less detergents and ZDDP because they also have to be low SAPS oils. So it's all about additive ratios in motor oil, and not about taking only one additive and looking at its ppm quantity out of context. There are people that are running 0W-40 oils in their tiny Honda 1.5 Turbo motors trying to mitigate fuel dilution.

I didn't randomly land on using 0W-40 oils in my vehicles, I've done research before I started using the oils in my signature. I would love to use other oil viscosities, however, unless I'm willing to spend a bunch of money on different motor oils like Amsoil Signature Series or Red Line Oil, just to name a few, my choices are limited. For my pickup truck for example, Red Line Oil 5W-20 in winter and 5w-30 in summer, or even 5w-20 year around without towing would be a perfect choice. But at almost $100 just in oil per oil change it's too expensive. I don't like ILSAC oils because they are low on detergents, additives, and to add insult to injury they are also very thin and shear to the very bottom of their grade, sometimes even crossing over one grade bellow them. Some people run them for extended OCIs and pad themselves of the back with decent UOAs and then when their vehicle reaches 150K miles they wonder why their motor is done. Well, to be fair, it's not exactly the motor oil that killed their engine, it's how they used that motor oil: they short tripped the car, didn't change the oil on time, used cheap oil filters, abused their vehicles without even realizing it and so on. And I could on and on about the current problems, but it won't do any good. With unrealistic CAFE requests and emission regulations minimalistic fuel savings combined with a very small reduction in pollution has been chosen for us instead of long term reliability and longevity for our vehicles. So I'm left wondering, what pollutes more, using a proper motor oil with increased levels of additives or having to manufacture more and more new vehicles to replace the ones that prematurely give up the ghost?
 
OP, like you said, no need to justify your purchase to anyone here.

Oil:
What you're doing is fine and all the other oils mentioned would do a great job too. Especially now that so many add packs are similar due to LSPI protection. Ford played a significant role in developing tests for API SPI so i would have no qualms if Ford recommended their MC Blend either.
 
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Direct_Rejection said:
I will stand up for the honor of Magnatec 5W30.

This oil produces nothing but stellar UOAs,
and should be near the top of everyone's list of underrated motor oils.

See the shameful BITOG Castrol hatred.

OP, stick with what you are doing.

Regarding ROI, hopefully you are getting this oil in the 5 quart jug at Walmart.

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Not me … only oil I have seen flip with oxidation in 3k … thixotropic coal black in 3k in a port injected engine.
I had a 2015 ecoboost and ran 0w40 after sound testing two 5w30’s with a DB meter …
 
4WD said:
Not me … only oil I have seen flip with oxidation in 3k … thixotropic coal black in 3k in a port injected engine.
I had a 2015 ecoboost and ran 0w40 after sound testing two 5w30’s with a DB meter …
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Magnatec 5W30

Meets Ford WSS-M2C946-B1
Meets Ford WSS-M2C961-A1
 
Direct_Rejection said:
Magnatec 5W30

Meets Ford WSS-M2C946-B1
Meets Ford WSS-M2C961-A1
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Agreed. And if someone wanted more turbo protection approvals, there are oils that combine the Ford approval you cite along with dexos1Gen2 and Honda HTO-06.
Two of these being, Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 and Mobil1 5W-30.
 
wemay said:
...although i believe PP 5W-30 dropped the HTO-06 with the introduction of API-SP. Not so for Mobil1 5W-30.
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Not true, Platinum still displays HTO-06 on the containers. I put it in my Jeep with the 2L turbo recently.
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madeej11 said:
Yeah but it's just that there's a multitude of people out there that don't need pick-ups, very wasteful. You may or may not be justified in owning two of them. Seems like you may be able to get by with one. Obviously your call but just saying.
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Very view people only buy what they need. You will see very few 1.0L 3 cylinder Subcompacts in use in America even though they easily cover 90% of the populations use 90% of the time. People don't even walk for trips of less than a mile or bike for trips less than three. Most people I know have at least triple the housing they need (Me included) and WAY more toys than they require.
 
Gene K said:
Very view people only buy what they need. You will see very few 1.0L 3 cylinder Subcompacts in use in America even though they easily cover 90% of the populations use 90% of the time. People don't even walk for trips of less than a mile or bike for trips less than three. Most people I know have at least triple the housing they need (Me included) and WAY more toys than they require.
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The opposite of what you're describing would be communism, where everyone is equally poor. We might have a system that is messed up in some places, however, I'll take it any day over the alternative. Financial success, excess, and pigging out on soul food is our way of life. And I'm just like everyone else, I buy more than I need because ... you never know ;)
 
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