OFFICIAL: Ford F-150 “Lightning” EV

[E365]

The all-electric F-150 “Lightning” will be revealed on 19 May 2021. Available Spring 2022.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...d-to-reveal-all-electric-f-150-lightning.html

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-ford-f-150-lightning-electric-truck/

 

[AZjeff]

"It can power your house." Cool.

 

[Greasymechtech]

Some can't even get the 7.2kw powerboost to power their tools

Of course, all are blaming the tools on the Frod forums

 

[JeffKeryk]

OMG I want one! Probably too expensive for dump runs, though...

 

[oggb]

I honestly didn't think Ford would get from hybrids to full electric F150s as quickly as they did.

I'll be very interested to see how these perform. I do wonder how much these things are going to need to weigh in order to sport decent range? The 3.5 ecoboost/5.0 coyote + 10 speed auto isn't really a very heavy package. ~700 lbs if I'm remembering correctly?

 

[meep]

I honestly didn't think Ford would get from hybrids to full electric F150s as quickly as they did.

I'll be very interested to see how these perform. I do wonder how much these things are going to need to weigh in order to sport decent range? The 3.5 ecoboost/5.0 coyote + 10 speed auto isn't really a very heavy package. ~700 lbs if I'm remembering correctly?

The energy density in a battery which can handle towing truly scares me. Gasoline.... spill it on the ground, it just sits there until it’s provoked, and it takes a little effort to light it. A battery is a few miles of impossibly thin material separated by a few miles of another impossibly thin material to avoid touching a few miles of oppositely charged impossibly thin material that wants nothing more than to react and destroy. the potential for a full on plasma incident is so right there. To store the juice needed to tow the 10mpg equivalent that a nice 30+ gallon gas tank provides is insane. I DO see a bev in our future, but I think it will begin in sedan territory.

 

[Snagglefoot]

I think the name and heritage attempt is quite fitting. I’d like one in white and call it White Lightning.

 

[oggb]

The energy density in a battery which can handle towing truly scares me.

I'll let some other brave souls beta test for a while.

 

[97prizm]

I have cammo pics as Ford was testing their electric F-150 in Denver near Denver International Airport. They were there camped out at one of the hotels for a week. And yes they HATE when you take pictures

 

[ZeeOSix]

I think the name and heritage attempt is quite fitting. I’d like one in white and call it White Lightning.

It is a good name, at least it's not another "Mustang".

 

[Kiwi_ME]

The energy density in a battery which can handle towing truly scares me.

For reference the heat energy density of gasoline v.s. lithium-ion is about 100 times higher, by weight or by volume.

 

[UncleDave]

I think the name and heritage attempt is quite fitting. I’d like one in white and call it White Lightning.

Racist.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Racist.

Ok, give me a black one and I’ll call it Black Magic.

 

[Wylie6G72]

Kinda cool, but kinda sad. End of the road for the ICE Lightening. I thought there might be one more.

 

[Cujet]

Can it go more than 200 miles on the highway? Can it tow 8000 pounds more than 80 miles?

 

[PandaBear]

I watched the whole ad but where is the truck?

 

[PandaBear]

The energy density in a battery which can handle towing truly scares me. Gasoline.... spill it on the ground, it just sits there until it’s provoked, and it takes a little effort to light it. A battery is a few miles of impossibly thin material separated by a few miles of another impossibly thin material to avoid touching a few miles of oppositely charged impossibly thin material that wants nothing more than to react and destroy. the potential for a full on plasma incident is so right there. To store the juice needed to tow the 10mpg equivalent that a nice 30+ gallon gas tank provides is insane. I DO see a bev in our future, but I think it will begin in sedan territory.

I think you just described some latex birth control. That "thin material" really makes a difference.

 

[PandaBear]

For reference the heat energy density of gasoline v.s. lithium-ion is about 100 times higher, by weight or by volume.

Before combustion and turning it into useful energy to move a vehicle. After that you get 80-90% in electric and about 20-35% in gasoline.

 

[Kiwi_ME]

Yeah, I was half asleep when I posted that. What I meant is that in terms of safety your first concern is the heat energy containing in a fully-charged EV battery rather than mechanical energy.

At 33.7 kWh of base heat energy per US Gallon, a fairly typical 64 kWh EV battery equates to about 1.9 US gallons of gasoline.

 

[PandaBear]

In terms of car fire safety, there are a lot of overlap between EV fire and gas fire. Both can kill you if it ignite, both are best avoided.

There are lots of design going in to make sure EV batteries don't get punctured, it is usually safe, but as you can see on the internet there's always freak accidents and idiots trying to get in trouble. Gasoline car fires, we have 100 years of experience dealing with it so we are comfortable with it. Eventually we will reach something that we all feel comfortable in EV fire risk and "good design". We have been ok so far and of course there's always room for improvement and cost to think about just like gas car safety.

I remember back then we don't allow Hydrogen Fuel Cell cars to be parked indoor, because of the volatility of explosion instead of a fire. You don't want to level a building no matter what.