NTSB urges Mandate to Limit the Speed of new Vehicles to the Posted Speed limit.

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The lack of enforcement also emboldens people like JC to behave in the manner they do because they feel they can do so with impunity.

That's really the biggest danger. I see this all the time on my commute out of the city home every night. Someone , who I would assume is very similar, driving way too fast in a real junker. 12 degrees of negative camber on one of the rear tires, cracked bumpers flapping around, bald tires ... And they never get a ticket or pulled over!
 
No I didn't read the whole thread. Just saw this.

So, let's say you have a new car, speed limited and some really nasty bad dude doesn't? And bad dude wants you for a little cornhole action or your wallet or you just left the gold emporium.

Yeah I know outrunning is rare, but it has happened to me.

The analogy, hate to write is.........if you outlaw automobile speeding via a limiter, only outlaws will speed.
 
Maybe… but 80km/hr limited trucks are a bad mix with no speed limit, even if there were more lanes.

My experience is that the speed limits drop really fast when nearing exits. Doesn’t matter how roads keep up with population, more population means more exits, means more speed variation.

And all of this still doesn’t recognize the massively increased inertia, and massively increased fuel burn that occurs with speed.
I was there just a few weeks ago. Forget exits and speed limits. I was driving a super nice Audi A6 tdi and regardless that it is very frugal, paying $11 a gallon really discourages speeding.
 
Most vehicles are governed. My Grand Caravan is 112mph, Ram 1500 108mph, Charger R/T is 155, my 300 was governed to 130, Durango 118mph.

The Caliber I have no idea, I didn’t have the lack of sense, balls big enough, or an empty stretch of road long enough to keep it pegged at 6,000rpm while the JATCO CVT screamed in agony to find out 😅
My Club Sport came with a beyond ridiculous 116 mph governor on it; I removed it with a Turner/Conforti EPROM but even so it just barely makes it to 130 mph. My wife’s X1 will supposedly hit 140 mph. The C43 had a ludicrous 134 mph governor standard, but I fortunately found a car with OEM 19” wheels and summer tires which raises the top speed to 155 mph (for me that was a mandatory option).
The Wrangler has a 100 mph governor; I’m okay with that one.
 
This only works if the speed limit they post is reasonable instead of the 65/75mph in a lot of places today. Raise them to 75/90mph and I'd say it is all good to me.

I'd prefer a "toll" to speed instead of a ticket or a ban.
 
Looking at where Germany is compared to the USA on this chart has me thinking speed limits aren't the issue:
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Death rates per mile driven would be interesting. I suspect the US scores high in fatalities due to the lack of public transportation. This puts more people on the road at any time of day which means more injuries as speeds increase.
 
I don't think excess speed is the problem. The problem is people driving too close to each other. You can still rear-end the vehicle in front of you driving 65 mph and cause significant damage. Being prepared for stopped traffic on the freeway is way safer than any speed limiter.

In the future, autonomous cars will be driving at a high rate of speed, but every car will know exactly where the other car is in relation to their position and the exact speed the other car is traveling. You will see a steady stream of cars on the freeway driving the exact same speed and maintaining the exact same distance from each other.
Volume combined with speeding
 
Yes, people do still ride horses on public roads, I've seen horses being ridden on the road I live on (which *IS* a paved road and I *do* have indoor plumbing).
I was in Watsonville the other day and there were 2 cowboys on tall horses on the sidewalk in the older part of the downtown. Pretty cool...
 
I was in Watsonville the other day and there were 2 cowboys on tall horses on the sidewalk in the older part of the downtown. Pretty cool...
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I think cell phone usage is by far the most dangerous. And these days you can talk into a dash mounted microphone and hear the person's voice out of the stereo speakers. And if that wasn't distracting enough, you can read the navigation screen as you're driving.
 
I think cell phone usage is by far the most dangerous. And these days you can talk into a dash mounted microphone and hear the person's voice out of the stereo speakers. And if that wasn't distracting enough, you can read the navigation screen as you're driving.

Yep...who needs all these "new fangled" gadgets. Who needs Navigation? Much better to try and read a paper map while driving. Yea-it's like no one has done that on here.....
 
The NTSB just issues recommendations. They have no legislative power whatsoever. So they can recommend things all day every day but a whole bunch of things have to go right for them to actually manage to get something implemented. The article seems to me to be just a way to get people riled up.
 
I find this to be a very difficult issue.
Lots of folks operate their vehicles at way too high speeds while slaloming though traffic.
Some of these cars are quite capable while others are either too large and heavy for this sort of driving or are clapped out old machines that shouldn't be on the road to begin with.
OTOH, one hates to see additional mandated restrictions placed upon all of us for the sins of the few.
I do think that most career government employees really do want to do what is best to protect us from errant stupidity.
OTOH, there are also a few out there who seek to control the freedoms of others, especially those who enjoy more wealth than they do as well as those lacking any means of objecting.
 
Here in az it's criminal speeding if you go 20 over. Most people keep it around 15 over.
I think there would be a lot less unsafe cars if the people driving them knew they were unsafe. I had some friends rolling around on tires with the steel belts hanging out, they didn't even know the tires were bald. If everyone inspected their cars once in a while there might still be flapping plastic and other stuff but atleast their brakes might work. The drivers license driving test is stupid easy to pass, the paper test is even easier.

I have used my abs before, (not counting all the times I've abused it on gravel) the guy in front of me decided this was the road here wanted so he slammed on his brakes 10 feet before the turn. It was also raining so it was easier than normal to lock up a tire. I slammed on my brakes, the left front tire did its abs thing a few times, and that was all.

I also see nothing wrong with going over 100 on a straight, empty road. I've done it myself a few times.
 
My dad won't let me drive his bmw, so I've only hit 110 or so. I've gone 150 but I wasn't driving.
 
The NTSB just issues recommendations. They have no legislative power whatsoever. So they can recommend things all day every day but a whole bunch of things have to go right for them to actually manage to get something implemented. The article seems to me to be just a way to get people riled up.
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When I was a judge in traffic court I was the toughest on the defendants who were speeding in active school zones or construction zones, as well as congested residential streets. That said, I didn't think a guy going 100 mph on a deserted interstate at 3:00 AM was a big deal. My chief traffic prosecutor-who shared my philosophy-had a Mustang GT and an extremely heavy right foot; she also wound up being elected judge. She replaced a guy who thought that you risked certain death if you drove 1 mph over 55. She and I both believed that anyone caught camping out in the left lane should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. At a minimum.
 
When I was a judge in traffic court I was the toughest on the defendants who were speeding in active school zones or construction zones, as well as congested residential streets. That said, I didn't think a guy going 100 mph on a deserted interstate at 3:00 AM was a big deal. My chief traffic prosecutor-who shared my philosophy-had a Mustang GT and an extremely heavy right foot; she also wound up being elected judge. She replaced a guy who thought that you risked certain death if you drove 1 mph over 55. She and I both believed that anyone caught camping out in the left lane should be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. At a minimum.
Have you considered moving to Colorado Springs?
 
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