Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
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Originally Posted By: cos
Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
Yikes, one more reason for you to ride a bicycle...scratch that some of them have problems too. Best stick to horses.
Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
Yikes, one more reason for you to ride a bicycle...scratch that some of them have problems too. Best stick to horses.
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Originally Posted By: 2002 Maxima SE
Originally Posted By: cos
Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
Yikes, one more reason for you to ride a bicycle...scratch that some of them have problems too. Best stick to horses.
Love is blind, deaf and dumb.
Yea, but some of my friends had a trek and one time there gear system destroyed itself after owning it for two years (they have a one year warranty), trek paid for a shop to put an entire new gear system on it...a BETTER gear system on it. And see that's the thing...Trek prides itself in customer satisfaction and will face the music if they are at fault...my point is this, Nissan doesn't and they won't get better until people like myself and others refuse to do business with them based on their faults.
Andy
Originally Posted By: cos
Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
Yikes, one more reason for you to ride a bicycle...scratch that some of them have problems too. Best stick to horses.
Love is blind, deaf and dumb.
Yea, but some of my friends had a trek and one time there gear system destroyed itself after owning it for two years (they have a one year warranty), trek paid for a shop to put an entire new gear system on it...a BETTER gear system on it. And see that's the thing...Trek prides itself in customer satisfaction and will face the music if they are at fault...my point is this, Nissan doesn't and they won't get better until people like myself and others refuse to do business with them based on their faults.
Andy
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Originally Posted By: sunfire
Originally Posted By: AndyM
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Question, HONESTLY, when you first heard this video or at anytime, what did you think the sound was? What was the problem? Answer honestly.
I honestly thought something broke loose and is bouncing around from the sound in the video. The ticking didn't have a steady beat so it probably isn't anything mechanical. Sounded like something was bouncing around from the random ticking. Was going to suggest you take the valve cover off before doing anything crazy like swapping engines. Looks like you started that thread already on your 3rd engine.
I did take the valve cover off first, plus I checked all the lifters, and removed the sparkplugs and checked those...no damage to any of them was evident.
Andy
Originally Posted By: AndyM
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Question, HONESTLY, when you first heard this video or at anytime, what did you think the sound was? What was the problem? Answer honestly.
I honestly thought something broke loose and is bouncing around from the sound in the video. The ticking didn't have a steady beat so it probably isn't anything mechanical. Sounded like something was bouncing around from the random ticking. Was going to suggest you take the valve cover off before doing anything crazy like swapping engines. Looks like you started that thread already on your 3rd engine.
I did take the valve cover off first, plus I checked all the lifters, and removed the sparkplugs and checked those...no damage to any of them was evident.
Andy
Andy,
Did you try to remove the 2nd screw in the power valve after you removed it?
I checked mine for the 2nd time today (first time was in 2004). Both screws are tight, I cannot turn them by untightening or tightening. It actually stripped the head on mine slightly.
The guy who posted this same problem on maxima.org lost the exact same screw as you (if memory serves).
Did you try to remove the 2nd screw in the power valve after you removed it?
I checked mine for the 2nd time today (first time was in 2004). Both screws are tight, I cannot turn them by untightening or tightening. It actually stripped the head on mine slightly.
The guy who posted this same problem on maxima.org lost the exact same screw as you (if memory serves).
Originally Posted By: AndyM
Originally Posted By: 2002 Maxima SE
Originally Posted By: cos
Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
Yikes, one more reason for you to ride a bicycle...scratch that some of them have problems too. Best stick to horses.
Love is blind, deaf and dumb.
Yea, but some of my friends had a trek and one time there gear system destroyed itself after owning it for two years (they have a one year warranty), trek paid for a shop to put an entire new gear system on it...a BETTER gear system on it. And see that's the thing...Trek prides itself in customer satisfaction and will face the music if they are at fault...my point is this, Nissan doesn't and they won't get better until people like myself and others refuse to do business with them based on their faults.
Andy
If you were under 80K miles when this happened (and hadn't removed the engine) this would/should be part of the powertrain warranty. I'm not sure if Nissan requires a mechanic to see the issue though, but it should be covered.
Originally Posted By: 2002 Maxima SE
Originally Posted By: cos
Yikes, one more reason not to buy a Nissan.
Yikes, one more reason for you to ride a bicycle...scratch that some of them have problems too. Best stick to horses.
Love is blind, deaf and dumb.
Yea, but some of my friends had a trek and one time there gear system destroyed itself after owning it for two years (they have a one year warranty), trek paid for a shop to put an entire new gear system on it...a BETTER gear system on it. And see that's the thing...Trek prides itself in customer satisfaction and will face the music if they are at fault...my point is this, Nissan doesn't and they won't get better until people like myself and others refuse to do business with them based on their faults.
Andy
If you were under 80K miles when this happened (and hadn't removed the engine) this would/should be part of the powertrain warranty. I'm not sure if Nissan requires a mechanic to see the issue though, but it should be covered.
Originally Posted By: 2002 Maxima SE
Andy,
Did you try to remove the 2nd screw in the power valve after you removed it?
I checked mine for the 2nd time today (first time was in 2004). Both screws are tight, I cannot turn them by untightening or tightening. It actually stripped the head on mine slightly.
The guy who posted this same problem on maxima.org lost the exact same screw as you (if memory serves).
That's my point kinda, one screw is fine, the other not so much. It also appears that it had the original gasket on it. I mean, there is not any reason why a nissan tech would have taken it off, I'm convinced that this is a factory failure.
Andy,
Did you try to remove the 2nd screw in the power valve after you removed it?
I checked mine for the 2nd time today (first time was in 2004). Both screws are tight, I cannot turn them by untightening or tightening. It actually stripped the head on mine slightly.
The guy who posted this same problem on maxima.org lost the exact same screw as you (if memory serves).
That's my point kinda, one screw is fine, the other not so much. It also appears that it had the original gasket on it. I mean, there is not any reason why a nissan tech would have taken it off, I'm convinced that this is a factory failure.
But have you tried to remove the second screw? Is it loose or will it not come out?
Yeah, I'm debating whether or not to replace mine (even though it appears to be fine). Mine was an early 2002, a new VIAS/Power Valve is about $100. Cheap insurance I guess.
Yeah, I'm debating whether or not to replace mine (even though it appears to be fine). Mine was an early 2002, a new VIAS/Power Valve is about $100. Cheap insurance I guess.
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Originally Posted By: 2002 Maxima SE
But have you tried to remove the second screw? Is it loose or will it not come out?
Yeah, I'm debating whether or not to replace mine (even though it appears to be fine). Mine was an early 2002, a new VIAS/Power Valve is about $100. Cheap insurance I guess.
Get a fine tipped punch and peen the bottom of the screws where they come out at the other side of the shaft. This is the way the OEM Ford ones are done. IMHO, this, or some red loctite on the fastener should have been how it was done at the factory.
But have you tried to remove the second screw? Is it loose or will it not come out?
Yeah, I'm debating whether or not to replace mine (even though it appears to be fine). Mine was an early 2002, a new VIAS/Power Valve is about $100. Cheap insurance I guess.
Get a fine tipped punch and peen the bottom of the screws where they come out at the other side of the shaft. This is the way the OEM Ford ones are done. IMHO, this, or some red loctite on the fastener should have been how it was done at the factory.
That strikes me as a good idea. We still have our I-30 with the VQ30 - I'll have to take a look at this and possibly do what you suggest preventively.
It does seem to me that Nissan has given up a good bit of quality for cost savings recently. I like to paraphrase the old saying about power: Quality costs money - how much quality do you need? Remember, Nissan was in trouble some years ago and was rescued by Renault ownership and a revamping of product lines. Since then they have been on a roll in terms of product appeal and performance, and have won lots of comparison tests, but it does seem like their quality is slipping, probably because they had no choice but to invest more heavily elsewhere at its expense. Overall, I think the Japanese are having a harder time competing than in the '70's and '80's, when they had a large cost advantage; and Nissan seems to be slipping more than the best. Their position in quality surveys has been slipping, often to below average. There was a day when Nissan (and Datsun) made some of the best-built, toughest little cars and trucks you could buy. For my part, though, I no longer consider them a top-tier brand.
It does seem to me that Nissan has given up a good bit of quality for cost savings recently. I like to paraphrase the old saying about power: Quality costs money - how much quality do you need? Remember, Nissan was in trouble some years ago and was rescued by Renault ownership and a revamping of product lines. Since then they have been on a roll in terms of product appeal and performance, and have won lots of comparison tests, but it does seem like their quality is slipping, probably because they had no choice but to invest more heavily elsewhere at its expense. Overall, I think the Japanese are having a harder time competing than in the '70's and '80's, when they had a large cost advantage; and Nissan seems to be slipping more than the best. Their position in quality surveys has been slipping, often to below average. There was a day when Nissan (and Datsun) made some of the best-built, toughest little cars and trucks you could buy. For my part, though, I no longer consider them a top-tier brand.
My problem with Trek is, why did they ever sell a product to the public with a known gearset problem? Or if it wasn't known, why wasn't the product tested enough to find it?
That head does not look that bad, too bad you didnt fish the screw out the plug hole and drive the snot out of it.
It would have been fun if both screws had come loose, and the valve had gone open.
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Originally Posted By: oilyriser
It would have been fun if both screws had come loose, and the valve had gone open.
I had the TB shaft break (aftermarket BBK/Edelbrock TB) on my Mustang.... And yeah, it was fun! LOL! 3,500RPM idle
Luckily the TPS still thought the throttle was closed or things would have got VERY interesting........
It would have been fun if both screws had come loose, and the valve had gone open.
I had the TB shaft break (aftermarket BBK/Edelbrock TB) on my Mustang.... And yeah, it was fun! LOL! 3,500RPM idle
Luckily the TPS still thought the throttle was closed or things would have got VERY interesting........Reminds me of just this past week. Long highway drive, I forgot I'd slipped it into neutral and hit resume on the cruise, and it tried! It went full throttle, into the rev limiter within a second, then I was wildly pounding on pedals to get it to shut off.
There is of course a switch to disengage cruise when you press the clutch, but it has no idea you're not in gear when the clutch is out!
There is of course a switch to disengage cruise when you press the clutch, but it has no idea you're not in gear when the clutch is out!
try hitting resume when it's in 2nd. The rev limiter might only work when in neutral.
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You are wasting your time with Nissan. I leased a new Q45 which had a faulty wiring harness that began to fail at 2 (yes two) miles from the dealer. They denied all issues and said it was a bad fuse. In 48 months of my lease (thank heaven it had a 48mo/60k warranty) the car was at the dealer 37 times and I drove a loaner for 6 months of my 48.
I hit 59,900 miles in month number 47 and parked it in my driveway for 4 weeks and then turned it in. At the turn in shop the guy said there were some things I would have to pay for so I threw the keys at him and walked away. Never heard from them again. What did I get for my trouble? An Infiniti golf shirt.
I wholeheartedly concur. You'll get nowhere and receive nothing from Nissan unless they're ordered to cough up by a court, and then, they'll probably wait until threatened with either collection or contempt of court.
On a lighter note, hey, you should have left the screw in the chamber a little longer. First, it might eventually blown itself down into the exhaust, and second, if it stayed in there longer, it might actually have "shot peened" the rest of the carbon off the surfaces in there!
If it were me, I'd get it all buttoned up and running smooth, get rid of it, and never consider owning another Nissan/Infiniti again.
You are wasting your time with Nissan. I leased a new Q45 which had a faulty wiring harness that began to fail at 2 (yes two) miles from the dealer. They denied all issues and said it was a bad fuse. In 48 months of my lease (thank heaven it had a 48mo/60k warranty) the car was at the dealer 37 times and I drove a loaner for 6 months of my 48.
I wholeheartedly concur. You'll get nowhere and receive nothing from Nissan unless they're ordered to cough up by a court, and then, they'll probably wait until threatened with either collection or contempt of court.
On a lighter note, hey, you should have left the screw in the chamber a little longer. First, it might eventually blown itself down into the exhaust, and second, if it stayed in there longer, it might actually have "shot peened" the rest of the carbon off the surfaces in there!
If it were me, I'd get it all buttoned up and running smooth, get rid of it, and never consider owning another Nissan/Infiniti again.
How hard is it to access that throttle valve? I don't know the engine very well but I know my sister owns a Maxima of that vintage and I'd like to make sure those screws are doing their intended job and not what it did to the OP.
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