No inner support tube?(Toyota filter).

[Alan]

I did an oil change on a 2004 Corolla.The factory filter was made in Japan with a prefix before the 1003 model number.

I took a look inside the filter and there was no inner structure support tube.

If the filter media(whiched looked like conventional)collapsed whats there to stop it from being sucked in the engine?

 

[dickwells]

Maybe the high pressure side is the center hole on this particular engine

 

[Alan]

My 99 Corolla has practically the same engine(1ZZ) and uses the same part numbers for oil filters.They use inner support tubes.

 

[shortyb]

Check out the pics of the YZZB5, it sounds similar to your filter. You'll see that the there is a plastic "cage" that holds the media and not a conventional metal tube.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001129#000000

 

[labman]

Maybe some of you need to get over your hang up on metal parts. I have bought 7 different brands of elements for the Ecotec engine in my 02 Cavalier, and have yet to see a bit of metal. Note, plastic never rusts. That Honda filter looks like it has a bunch of media. That is what I want to see in a filter, a filter.

 

[quadrun1]

For the 2003 Corolla at least, Walmart's Supertech filter is very good. It's a traditional Champion Labs filter with metal parts, and a normal, rubber-sealed bypass valve (NOT clicker type). All at a great price.

See if the 2004 Corolla filter fitment is the same, I think it is...

 

[Ray H]

Certain plastics can withstand heat in excess of 700 degrees F. as well as being impervious to just about any solvent. ("Kapton" is one such resin.)

 

[dickwells]

How about you give an estimate of the sale cost of a filter made of "Kapton"?

 

[FL-400S]

Im running a motorcraft FL-400S on my Tercel right now, which specs the same filter (4967). Unless I find a reason not to, Im going to keep running it, its a nice filter for $2.77. It will probably thread on your corolla, but Im not sure if there would be enough physical room to fit it.

 

[Alan]

I use the Super Tech 4967 in my Corolla,it can't be beat for $1.97.

I didn't see any plastic support either in the filter.I did install a Fram TG4967 which had an orange silcon gasket and orange silicon ADBV.I looked inside the inner support tube structure ans saw plenty of preforations(holes)for oil flow,just as many as the ST or Purolator.

 

[Ray H]

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Originally posted by dickwells:
How about you give an estimate of the sale cost of a filter made of "Kapton"?

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How about you stepping back and taking ten deep breaths? I'm not at all sure why you felt it necessary to rebut my information with a personal challenge. I didn't state that any oil filter company uses Kapton - I was merely pointing out that certain plastics were up to the task for use as a center tube/mesh and referenced Kapton as one of the best known examples. Obviously the manufacturer of Toyota's Japanese filters feels whatever plastic it's using is up to the task and Toyota agrees.

(BTW, the center port is never the high pressure side of an oil filter. Doing so would restrict severely the amount of crud that could be collected, and, furthermore, the the ADB valve would prevent oil from being distributed to the engine...)

[ March 05, 2004, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: Ray H ]

 

[dickwells]

Just looking for a comparative cost between "Kapton" and stamped steel. I don't see this as a rebuttal, but to each his own.

Thanks for the info that filters "never" have the high pressure side to the center. I only could speak for 99% of them and have learned to avoid absolutes unless totally sure.

As far as the Toyota filter, lets see, aren't they the makers of the notorious "sludge monster engines"? So their judgement does not have any particular credibility with me.