New lakespeed test!!! Havoline 10W-30 Conventional VS Supertech 10W-30 Full Synthetic

What is his MO?
For me at least, Lake seems to throw in a lot of filler. He constantly interrupts others that he has on his videos, and for me, when they seem to be contributing something of interest. As others have said, he seems to like to hear himself expound on some topic. There have been some times when he seems to say things that he knows will be a popular opinion, although it may be somewhat contrary to other things he has said.
 
For me at least, Lake seems to throw in a lot of filler. He constantly interrupts others that he has on his videos, and for me, when they seem to be contributing something of interest. As others have said, he seems to like to hear himself expound on some topic. There have been some times when he seems to say things that he knows will be a popular opinion, although it may be somewhat contrary to other things he has said.
Sounds a lot like most of the posts here you read them one a time.
 
There was some neat info in the video, seeing the oxidation stability difference between the three 10W-30 oils (conventional, synthetic, racing) but yeah there was no need for it to be 30+ min long.

For the TLDW crowd the PDSC oxidation stability values (VOA, 0 hr, 1 hr, 2 hr on dyno)
- Havoline: 45.77, 45.33, 41.37, 40.5
- SuperTech: 71.39, 69.72, 66.22, 63.01
- VR1 Syn: 62.66, 56.79, 46.13, 47.27
All I see there is that, relatively speaking, VR1 syn is the least stable. Wonder if this is the Saudi formula or old one. 😞
 
Okayyyyy!! This post didn't go as planned🤪 🥴




Hang around for a while. The next one will turn out just like this one.

This is usually how it goes:
-LSJ video appears on YT
-Someone creates a thread about said video
-Out come the basement dwellers complaining like their mom said they can’t have any Totino’s pizza rolls until they finish their chores.
-Others will act as if they’re being held against their will, and forced to watch it
-Others will insult him for dermatological reasons, as was mentioned earlier in this thread.
-Others will out themselves as being anti-capitalism
-Thread will possibly be locked because some folks can’t behave

Then we eagerly wait for a week. A new video drops, and we repeat it all again.

I ❤️ this place.
 
How would you compare a convectional to a synthetic that’s “apples to apples”?
I see where the confusion came in.

My point was comparing conventional to synthetic is not an apples to apples comparison that interest me. I would agree the testing methods were apples to apples. Me? I would have compared one conventional to another and a syn to another syn. Don't get me wrong, it make for an interesting comparison but I don't use anything but full syn so - it was of no interest to me.
 
LSJ is great and the video was cool. I hope he keeps making more, they are entertaining and informative. Plus you can ask him questions or participate in discussions on his channel in the comments without getting **** on like some other places that talk about oil. I use his oil analysis services in part because I like his content.
 
For the curious. Right there on his Linkedin


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If lack of brevity is a problem, simply watch at 2x speed. I watched the video and it was somewhat interesting.
  • Chevron is vertically integrated, meaning it manufactures both base oil and additives, that’s why it was chosen
  • Supertech is blended by a third party sourcing base oils and additives independently for Walmart, that’s why it was chosen
  • Conventional Havoline had more wear and degradation than cheap Supertech synthetic
  • Synthetics had slightly cooler temps and slightly more power
  • VR1 performed the best but degraded the most and likely had the least thermal stability, as would be expected from a race oil
  • Evidence that synthetic was actually better for flat tappet cams than conventional
Overall, his data and conclusions seem consistent with what would be expected. I see little reason to get bent out of shape about this video, aside from personal biases.
 
If lack of brevity is a problem, simply watch at 2x speed. I watched the video and it was somewhat interesting.
  • Chevron is vertically integrated, meaning it manufactures both base oil and additives, that’s why it was chosen
  • Supertech is blended by a third party sourcing base oils and additives independently for Walmart, that’s why it was chosen
  • Conventional Havoline had more wear and degradation than cheap Supertech synthetic
  • Synthetics had slightly cooler temps and slightly more power
  • VR1 performed the best but degraded the most and likely had the least thermal stability, as would be expected from a race oil
  • Evidence that synthetic was actually better for flat tappet cams than conventional
Overall, his data and conclusions seem consistent with what would be expected. I see little reason to get bent out of shape about this video, aside from personal biases.
Great POST!!

I just now tried 2X, a bit speedy, but 1.5 and 1.25 make it WAY WAY WAY better!!

Thank you so much!!! And thanks for the summary. Excellent.
 
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