Could you explain "certain biases"?
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SammyChevelleTypeS3
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I was watching a really interesting classic movie Otto Preminger's IN HARM's WAY (John Wayne/Kirk Douglas) about the USN during WWII. Of course it is fiction. A patriotic movie of the type Hollywood used to pump out during those dark times across the globe. Today they are more likely to make films to support the enemies of their own country while trying to make the USA seem like the world's most evil empire.
They need more tanks because they keep getting blown up by drones and missiles.
Little more detail on the vessel.
https://news.usni.org/2025/12/22/tr...l-be-largest-u-s-surface-combatant-since-wwii
Very impressive, butt, and itsa big butt, 1 Nuclear weapon hit and It's Gone. Not the best use of our military funds.
Russia did a launch of over 500 drones the other day. It did a lot of damage of energy infrastructure required to keep warm this winter.
Most definitely impressive; the ingenuity of the common infantry in finding ways around problems is pretty good.
Problem is Russia and Ukraine are next door neighbors; all they need is a hop, skip, and a jump to reach each other's land. The common drones don't have the 1000 mile range nor warhead that a Tomahawk does where we can launch a dozen of them a thousand miles out a sea without retaliation.
We're not in a 10 mile slug fest mile like WW2 is - which is what I think people think this is for. We can hit thousands of miles away through computer screens.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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Yes. But it is truly a shame that any weapons had to be fired and so much loss of life there because the world keeps forgetting what tyrants always do when they sense weakness or fear. Ukraine paid a terrible price for trusting the USA and NATO by giving up most of their weapons in the 1990s. The world too had gotten giddy with itself over the collapsed USSR. The situation even a certain POTUS who joked and laughed at people when pressed about us still not wanting to trust Russia. Once again, we could not trust them. Truly interesting how China seems to be kicked back and allowing many of their so called allies collapse upon themselves.
My stepson who is in the military says it will never be built.
Steady hand, good eyes to see the puddle and good body to get in all kinds of positions. Thats all it takes along with a good welding school.
Russia will never be a friend of the USA never to be trusted
That is true of any military unit, any military base, any city, and frankly, any nation.
There is nothing that can take a direct nuclear hit and survive.
Nothing. I’m not even certain that some of the underground deep Silos could take that hit.
Which means it is an irrelevant criteria for whether or not we should have that unit, that installation, or that city.
What you need to be able to do is shoot down the arrow before that nuclear payload hits your defended asset.
Even better, kill the archer before he launches the arrow.
Making a unit capable of surviving a direct nuclear hit is a waste of time and effort. Nothing can survive that. So let’s shelve that criticism because it truly is irrelevant.
Unless your stepson works in the N8 at the Pentagon, he is in no position to have an informed opinion.
His opinion is worth no more, no less, than the average man on the street.
If only there were a person on this board, who spent several years in the requirements business, working with N8, following the JCIDS process, and understanding naval requirements and capabilities, then, perhaps that opinion might be worth something.
But, where would we find such a person,
Don't put too much weight in uninformed "opinions"
Legend says you can quietly hear all the freedom contained in the oil sump if you put your ears next to it.
SammyChevelleTypeS3
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Kind of like checking for worn or bad bearings by putting a pencil on the housing and the other end to your ear! 
He came up with a formula already and the greatest scientific experts in the world said they've never seen a oil this great. The greatest oil ever made.
Starting to make sense now. Replacement and improvement for existing class of ships that needs to be retired.
Wish they would have just said that.
I was under the impression that the plan was smaller, but more ships in order to spread out any vulnerabilities.
