*New Amsoil SSO 0w-30

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
Is this the longest running thread ?


Probably not ..but it's the most viewed and posted to in the shortest time (that I can recall) in BITOG history. So, it's probably the biggest thread outside of the Investors check in thread in G&OT.

It's actually fairly young.

 

[Bambam]

Originally Posted By: TeeDub
Bambam,

Tell me about the
oil change history of this Impala - I may be able to help you out.

My comments on the noticable cleaning effect are based on thirteen years of personal observation in a wide variety of engines, since the Series 2000 oils were first introduced in 1995.


This car has had synthetic it in since the first change

M1 5w30

GC 0w30

M1 0w30 for the past couple years,usually 6k changes,I know it could go longer but it's me and my analicity!

Since May this is the cars routine

start

minimal warm up

2 miles to work

off 6 hours

start

minimal warm up

2 miles home

off from 1/2 hour all the way til the next morning

usually gets a good up to temp run daily give or take

usual consumption at @ 1/2 a quart every 2-2.5 k

EAO filter & SSO this run

1 full quart between @2200 and 3500 miles

 

[TeeDub]

Two miles to work?

Get your wife a bicycle ...

Seriously though, you're seeing fuel dilution from the short trips. When you finally get out on the highway this diluted oil is being consumed, which is perfectly normal. I'd try the easy fix and go up to the Amsoil 5w-40 HD diesel oil or 10w-40/AMO.

The fact that you've had oil consumption all along with several different oils is the key bit of information here.

 

[Bambam]

Originally Posted By: TeeDub
Two miles to work?

Get your wife a bicycle ...

Seriously though, you're seeing fuel dilution from the short trips. When you finally get out on the highway this diluted oil is being consumed, which is perfectly normal. I'd try the easy fix and go up to the Amsoil 5w-40 HD diesel oil or 10w-40/AMO.

The fact that you've had oil consumption all along with several different oils is the key bit of information here.


A HDEO in a 3.8 V-6???? Really? What'll that do to mpg?

 

[Tempest]

I would run cheap as you can get 5w20 and change it often with nearly all short trips like that.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Quote:
Is this the longest running thread ?


Probably not ..but it's the most viewed and posted to in the shortest time (that I can recall) in BITOG history. So, it's probably the biggest thread outside of the Investors check in thread in G&OT.

It's actually fairly young.


I created a monster.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: buster
harry, I know a guy that put SSO in his Civic and the engine became so powerful it detached itself from the car.
That is the problem with Amsoil SSO in some applications. I have heard "Insider information" that Amsoil is having a BIG problem with the increase of power and the resulting chassis problems . The oil just increases power way to much and that Amsoil is going to add some GPIII to lower the power increases.

 

[Tempest]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: buster
harry, I know a guy that put SSO in his Civic and the engine became so powerful it detached itself from the car.
That is the problem with Amsoil SSO in some applications. I have heard "Insider information" that Amsoil is having a BIG problem with the increase of power and the resulting chassis problems . The oil just increases power way to much and that Amsoil is going to add some GPIII to lower the power increases.

 

[Saturn_Fan]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: buster
harry, I know a guy that put SSO in his Civic and the engine became so powerful it detached itself from the car.
That is the problem with Amsoil SSO in some applications. I have heard "Insider information" that Amsoil is having a BIG problem with the increase of power and the resulting chassis problems . The oil just increases power way to much and that Amsoil is going to add some GPIII to lower the power increases.

Seriously speaking, I had Amsoil SSO basically destroy my motor mounts. The resultant increase in power ripped the upper and lower mounts right from the engine. They were just hanging there when I pulled over. Never seen anything like it. I am now trying to locate titanium mounts for a 2000 Saturn SL 1.9L. Thanks.

 

[pickled]

Absolutely...engine flush is the key to getting all the benefits over a long period vs. using the new oil to purge your system (it's a lot less costly to use the $5 flush product on a high mileage motor then throw $7 quarts of oil at it later).

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: buster
harry, I know a guy that put SSO in his Civic and the engine became so powerful it detached itself from the car.
That is the problem with Amsoil SSO in some applications. I have heard "Insider information" that Amsoil is having a BIG problem with the increase of power and the resulting chassis problems . The oil just increases power way to much and that Amsoil is going to add some GPIII to lower the power increases.

This is serious info. A NASCAR team is getting 39 HP by using this oil,it is a secret .

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: pickled
Absolutely...engine flush is the key to getting all the benefits over a long period vs. using the new oil to purge your system (it's a lot less costly to use the $5 flush product on a high mileage motor then throw $7 quarts of oil at it later).


The Amsoil engine flush is a strong safe flush use as directed to flush what's in the engine before using Amsoil synthetic oil. Amsoil may do some slow cleaning in the engine which may decrease it's ability in extended drain intervals. You don't want that..Amsoil oil flush is pretty strong stuff..clean what's in there before using Amsoil.

 

[milehighassassin]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster cut your mph to 65 mph and let the SSO do its magic with the mpgs and the oil consumption.

If you cut your speed down, of course your mileage will improve. Drag is more of a factor for MPG than oil EVER will be.

Not dogging the oil here, I am sure it is great and will be trying it out, but you can't cut back speed and say the oil improved the economy.


1 change at a time...

 

[harry j]

My mechanic at Honda insisted on using a 20W-50 oil in his Accord due to high mileage. I pointed out that 105,000 miles on a Honda engine is not generally considered to be high mileage. I talked him into trying the SSO. He is very pleased with how his engine is performing now. The startup noise is gone and his gas mileage went up 2 MPG.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: harry j
My mechanic at Honda insisted on using a 20W-50 oil in his Accord due to high mileage. I pointed out that 105,000 miles on a Honda engine is not generally considered to be high mileage. I talked him into trying the SSO. He is very pleased with how his engine is performing now. The startup noise is gone and his gas mileage went up 2 MPG.
Going from 20/50 to ANY x-30wt oil will get 2 mpg.

It is NOT the SSO doing the MPG increase.

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: harry j
My mechanic at Honda insisted on using a 20W-50 oil in his Accord due to high mileage. I pointed out that 105,000 miles on a Honda engine is not generally considered to be high mileage. I talked him into trying the SSO. He is very pleased with how his engine is performing now. The startup noise is gone and his gas mileage went up 2 MPG.
Going from 20/50 to ANY x-30wt oil will get 2 mpg.

It is NOT the SSO doing the MPG increase.

yup Bill is right, any x-30 is better than SSO

 

[HTSS_TR]

I agreed. I tried PP 5W20 in '00 E430 last summer which had M1 0W40 all its life and the mileage improved about 1.0-3.0 MPG. City mileage went from 15-16 MPG to 16-18 MPG, highway mileage went from 23-25 MPG at 80 MPH to 26-28 MPG at the same speed with cruise control. The side benefit is the engine was much quieter with PP 5W20.

I just changed to M1 0W20 which I bought on clearance a while ago, wife is driving the car so I don't know the benefits yet.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: harry j
My mechanic at Honda insisted on using a 20W-50 oil in his Accord due to high mileage. I pointed out that 105,000 miles on a Honda engine is not generally considered to be high mileage. I talked him into trying the SSO. He is very pleased with how his engine is performing now. The startup noise is gone and his gas mileage went up 2 MPG.


Start-up noise is most likely in his head and the mpg increase is from dropping down 2 grades.

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: harry j
My mechanic at Honda insisted on using a 20W-50 oil in his Accord due to high mileage. I pointed out that 105,000 miles on a Honda engine is not generally considered to be high mileage. I talked him into trying the SSO. He is very pleased with how his engine is performing now. The startup noise is gone and his gas mileage went up 2 MPG.


Start-up noise is most likely in his head and the mpg increase is from dropping down 2 grades.

nothing better than speculation on 4th/5th hand information, everything is so factual, just be safe repeat what is said and join the cheerleader club

 

[buster]

I'm a big fan of the SSO oil. However, common sense should tell even the biggest Amsoil cheerleader(you) that the drop in viscosity had more to do with the mpg gain.