Looks like $12.47 same as my Wal Mart
My Walmart has dropped the Endurance for a new 20k Purolator
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Once gone things don’t easily come back. It takes experienced labor and expensive equipment to come back. China has experienced skilled labor now. The choice starts with the consumer since companies want that bottom line. It may be FB got rid of the skilled workers and combined with bean counters this is what we have. I have no problem with Purolator in the present.
If there is a torn pleat or other defect, add the date code or it really doesn’t matter.
If there is a torn pleat or other defect, add the date code or it really doesn’t matter.
The switch over seems to be hitting multiple Walmarts now. Quicker than I expected.
My Walmart is now dropping the Endurance and switching to Purolator 20K, I was going to possibly run this filter but I do not feel comfortable running any M+H oil filter right now especially when even recently M+H made Mobil 1 oil filters were having anti-drainback valves cut.
I was considering the new Mobil 1 PG made filter however in the past I ran Microgard Select and it had a bypass valve when my Chevy has the bypass valve built in to the block, and it unfortunately seems that might also be the case with the new Mobil 1 filters because Autozone lists them as having a bypass valve. Currently no new stock was in last time I checked the store so I cannot verify maybe someone else can kindly take a look at their local stores it would be the M1-101A.
With the great build quality and what seems like good quality control at PG factories I would expect them to get something so basic correct.
I was considering the new Mobil 1 PG made filter however in the past I ran Microgard Select and it had a bypass valve when my Chevy has the bypass valve built in to the block, and it unfortunately seems that might also be the case with the new Mobil 1 filters because Autozone lists them as having a bypass valve. Currently no new stock was in last time I checked the store so I cannot verify maybe someone else can kindly take a look at their local stores it would be the M1-101A.
With the great build quality and what seems like good quality control at PG factories I would expect them to get something so basic correct.
I'd bet the block bypass valve is set lower than the MicroGard Select. The MicroGard Select MSL57502 is 22 PSI per O'Reilly's website.
AC Delco bypass valve comes in 11psi and 21psi replacements. It takes the MSL51040, PG111EX lists 21PSI.
If it could be verified your engine has the 11 PSI bypass, then using those filters would be fine. But I do understand the concern not knowing which engine block bypass it has. Is the 21 PSI block bypass an updated version for that engine?
I believe it is 11psi with oil cooler and 21psi without oil cooler but I would have to verify.
Mine has an oil cooler so likely 11psi but it just doesn't sit well with me, I may email PG and have them explain why they do this.
What is also concerning is PG111EX lists 42-60 Micron rating but also lists 99% 25 Microns so something is off with their listing.
Yes, that's been brought up a few times here. Based on other info seems the 99% @25u is correct. If you find anything out from PGI please share the info.
I sent them an email in regards to that as well as the bypass valve. If they reply with an answer I will post it here.
All FE's gone from Dickson, TN. Walmart. Unfortunate, as I believe it's a better filter than the Purolator that replaced it, but I never ran it anyway, as my longest OCI is 8000 mi (on the Tacoma with M1 0W-40), and I've always run the Fram Ultra.
An FE cartridge for $5, 'if' similar to or same as the China made Pentastar cartridges I've looked at recently, a good deal imo. As for the spin on at that price, wouldn't entice me, but could see where some might them a buy it at that price.
none that I could tell, just yellow tag to make NPCs go "oooh look its a deal!"
I called the PG tech line about a month ago to get answers after months of no email responses. The website has an error. The non ex filters are 42-60. The ex filters are 15-25. This means the ex filters are 98.7@15, 99.5@20, and 99.9@25.
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Yes, the BOSS marketing has not-so-mysteriously changed from 20k miles to 15k miles FOR THE SAME FILTERS.
I mean exact same filters. Older BOSS boxes said 20k, new ones for identical PNs now say 15k.
The logical explanation is, IMO, that Wal-mart demanded the supplier not offer a filter that competes with their 20k mile exclusive filter. Thus, the 20k gold purolator and the BOSS is now only 15k when it's probably the better filter (not wal-mart-ized)
Maybe this is common knowledge but in considering alternatives to the Fram Endurance Cartridge filters if they are fully discontinued, I opened an Ultra Cartridge Filter of the same size (11955) and it looked exactly the same. Fram's website says the endurance use full synthetic media while the ultra is a blend but they both had identical looking white media with black wire mesh backing and the same looking endcaps with "Made in China" on them. The Ultra was $2-3 more. I don't know if they were actually identical in terms of media, but it sure looked like it.
Boss is probably better how? Doubt the Boss is going to be better efficiency than the Purolator Gold unless the Gold uses screen door media.
I just got an email response, they say the bypass valve for my application is redundant and will not cause harm they use the same filter for non GM applications that need a bypass valve.
They also told me PG111EX is 99% at 25 Microns and the 42-60 is incorrect and they will update the catalog.
I also asked in regards to the new PG made Mobil 1 filters and according to PG they do not supply the new Mobil 1 filters which is interesting because it does look like a PG design but Mobil's website says Highline Warren.
