I've never understood why manufacturers end up with three motors on their high end products. Wouldn't you want four for torque vectoring etc?This is what I found. Still not great.
According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Tesla Cybertruck has an estimated range of 340 milesfor the all-wheel drive (AWD) trim. This is an improvement over the initial range of 300 miles announced in 2019 during the launch event. However, the tri-motor Cybertruck, now known as the Cyberbeast, only has a range of 320 miles instead of the advertised 500 miles.
Wherever these numbers came from, the EPA allows a couple of different methods to obtain these numbers and Tesla always chooses the less honest one. I may like Tesla but I don't give them a free pass, that's for sure.
Apparently recently it's coming out that the 4680 cells are a "dry" anode technology vs wet. Unfortunately Tesla has rushed this and it's biting them hard. It sounds like engineers are saying that the material applied is way more difficult to scale up than previously thought. If the chemicals aren't applied correctly the battery pack is scrap according to a couple of articles. A number of people at Tesla are saying that with current production rates Tesla will only be able to crank out about 24,000 Cybertrucks a year. Creating cutting edge technology is great, but not when it sounds like it has alot of teething problems and you are attempting to use it on a new "halo" model.4680 were heralded as a breakthrough in terms of power density and cost reduction, Giga texas was suppose to churn out model ys with it, but then that went away and now only the cybertruck has it. They cannot seem to deliver just yet on it for reasons as linked above, and I think the cybertruck low productin volume is suffering due to that.
It would be fine if the market was stagnant, but I do see BMW pounding their chest about their 4680 in the upcoming neu klasse. with catl and eve energy
Honestly there's a lot to that, but it also depends on what the goal of the vehicle is. Lucid didn't find a need to do it and it's the quickest 4 door production car in the world. Torque vectoring the rear with a single front is pretty effective with the right front differential and I'd think with a truck quad motor would really not matter much if absolute performance wasn't the goal. The Rivian top trim is quad motor, but the tri motor Cybertruck is still faster at least in a straight line. Of course you're referring to benefits in handling, but it doesn't seem to be holding the Lucid back.I've never understood why manufacturers end up with three motors on their high end products. Wouldn't you want four for torque vectoring etc?
As long the bread and butter is still not effected, there process delays should give them some breathing room in the resale market/mmr values. Big leaps take time.Apparently recently it's coming out that the 4680 cells are a "dry" anode technology vs wet. Unfortunately Tesla has rushed this and it's biting them hard. It sounds like engineers are saying that the material applied is way more difficult to scale up than previously thought. If the chemicals aren't applied correctly the battery pack is scrap according to a couple of articles. A number of people at Tesla are saying that with current production rates Tesla will only be able to crank out about 24,000 Cybertrucks a year. Creating cutting edge technology is great, but not when it sounds like it has alot of teething problems and you are attempting to use it on a new "halo" model.
Tesla doesn’t make a pickup truckConsidering that Teslas are among the highest rated vehicles regarding the safety/crash testing, it is mindless speculation to think that the Cybertruck will get a low rating for occupant safety. You are assuming that Tesla's engineers didn't have crash worthiness as a primary prerequisite in the design from the very beginning, along with making sure that it would meed NHTSA regulations for things like ride height, headlights & tail lights and all the other minutiae that vehicles need to adhere to in order to be sold in the US.
I wouldn't bet against Tesla when it comes to these things. Especially when they started with a clean slate in the design and production methods and materials. You can be sure that plenty of crash testing has already occurred.
Now if it was a company like GM that allowed their pickup trucks with dual saddle gas tanks that could easily explode from a side impact to remain on the road for years before a recall because it was cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to recall them, I wouldn't be surprised if safety compromises were made in the design and production. That's what happens when you don't have the resources to do things right in the first place.
Tesla doesn’t make a pickup truck
More evidence the range is terrible and charging of the 4680s is just as bad as the 4680 equipped Model Ys.
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These legs are between 100 miles and 146 miles. Mostly 40 minute charging stops. One 20 minute stop and one 55 minute stop.
And there’s this new thread from the Cybertruck forum. Many are thinking this will max-out about 250 miles real-world.
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...wd-cybertruck-after-20-mile-range-test.10983/
LOL Elon and Tesla are the gifts that keep giving. Just have a look at the Cyber Truck the world was blessed with.22 pages and counting … Changed anyone’s destiny yet ?
Most threads this long turn to churn …LOL Elon and Tesla are the gifts that keep giving.![]()
That depends on which page you are on...22 pages and counting … Changed anyone’s destiny yet ?
22 pages and counting … Changed anyone’s destiny yet ?