Musk Says Tesla ‘Dug Our Own Grave’ With The Cybertruck

Quality and Tesla are 2 words that do not belong in the same sentence.
While I haven't had any quality problems with mine and I'd like to refute this, I did have to pull out and reinstall the driver's side door sill to take care of some wind noise. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to get a service center to understand and fix this. I think overall I may have lucked out otherwise, but I think some models have had more problems than others and the 3 and Y have faired much better than the S and X as early models. I've not heard good things from S owners in particular on rattles new from the factory.
 
Our Model 3 has been perfect except for the 12v battery at 5 years and a little blue warsher fluid. Tesla send out a mobile tech to replace the battery. A tire did pick up a nail; those Contis ain't cheap but they ride nice.
 
The charging rates have been shown over at a couple of the electric vehicle websites and apparently the cybertruck has abysmal charging speed. So much for all of the amazing charging speed and battery density the Muskrat keeps promising.
 
While I haven't had any quality problems with mine and I'd like to refute this, I did have to pull out and reinstall the driver's side door sill to take care of some wind noise. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to get a service center to understand and fix this. I think overall I may have lucked out otherwise, but I think some models have had more problems than others and the 3 and Y have faired much better than the S and X as early models. I've not heard good things from S owners in particular on rattles new from the factory.
From my understanding there is a brewing class action lawsuit as hundreds of model y and 3 owners are saying that they aren't getting even close to the milage promised.
 
From my understanding there is a brewing class action lawsuit as hundreds of model y and 3 owners are saying that they aren't getting even close to the milage promised.
The LFPs have been fine from my understanding. Mine has been good, but I’ve never used the older battery design.
 
I know one thing: they ain’t gonna be popular at local ski resorts. Maybe at Vail, Aspen or Telluride to go for a dinner, if roads are fully cleared.


Does no one know how to shut off traction control or engage slip start on a Tesla? It no longer traction limits so you can actually get through crap like this.
 
From my understanding there is a brewing class action lawsuit as hundreds of model y and 3 owners are saying that they aren't getting even close to the milage promised.

We'll see what happens.

The EPA determines the range not Tesla.
 
I know one thing: they ain’t gonna be popular at local ski resorts. Maybe at Vail, Aspen or Telluride to go for a dinner, if roads are fully cleared.



I’ve been trying to find the tread depth on these A/T tires. Out of Spec mentioned the tread depth was extremely shallow, but they didn’t provide specs. Probably ditched traction for range.
 
I’ve been trying to find the tread depth on these A/T tires. Out of Spec mentioned the tread depth was extremely shallow, but they didn’t provide specs. Probably ditched traction for range.
Of course, but I'm sure my 2017 F150 would have gotten through that with its highway tires in 4WD, assuming I shut off TCS. That's likely the main problem here. Tesla traction control is extremely invasive. It's excellent for traction and acceleration on dry pavement. It needs to be shut off for extremely slick situations where you may get stuck. It won't allow slipping wheel speed any other way.
 
Does no one know how to shut off traction control or engage slip start on a Tesla? It no longer traction limits so you can actually get through crap like this.
I will hook up that Tesla with ANY of my three cars, with TC on, and pull it out while going through that snow.
I went thought that this morning in BMW.
 
Of course, but I'm sure my 2017 F150 would have gotten through that with its highway tires in 4WD, assuming I shut off TCS. That's likely the main problem here. Tesla traction control is extremely invasive. It's excellent for traction and acceleration on dry pavement. It needs to be shut off for extremely slick situations where you may get stuck. It won't allow slipping wheel speed any other way.
This is not an extremely slick situation.
It is snow; it is not ice or ice underneath snow.
 
I’ve been trying to find the tread depth on these A/T tires. Out of Spec mentioned the tread depth was extremely shallow, but they didn’t provide specs. Probably ditched traction for range.
So when one puts "real" A/T tires, the range will be???
 
This is not an extremely slick situation.
It is snow; it is not ice or ice underneath snow.
I get that, but I'm not sure you understand how limiting the the traction systems are on an EV. It does not allow more than a split second of wheel slip. If it's enough to hold the tires where it would require a bit of wheel spin, it needs to be disabled. The problem is that it's not a physical button.

An internal combustion engine isn't that restrained, it allows wheel spin and then limits after the fact. You don't get a hint of wheel spin and then a safety net after the fact.

So when one puts "real" A/T tires, the range will be???
Worse. Absolutely without a doubt worse.
 
I get that, but I'm not sure you understand how limiting the the traction systems are on an EV. It does not allow more than a split second of wheel slip. If it's enough to hold the tires where it would require a bit of wheel spin, it needs to be disabled. The problem is that it's not a physical button.

An internal combustion engine isn't that restrained, it allows wheel spin and then limits after the fact. You don't get a hint of wheel spin and then a safety net after the fact.

This should be some capable truck. I mean, this is becoming a joke. And the more of them is on the street the more videos like this will be going around.
This is becoming a situation like that with Plaid brakes. They work as long as you drive slowly. So basically, if they put tires that ANY truck has, the range will be???
Also, what happened with Vooice Command? Can't voice command turn off TC?
 
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