More Evidence That Doesn't Support 10K Oil Changes

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Royalty Auto Service YT channels is getting more attention than it deserves. I think it only pops in my YT feed because of the NAPA oil filters changing suppliers video that was fraught with misplaced suppositions like this video is also.
 
For all the folks that want to do their 10k+ oil changes on their car. Go for it, you paid a lot of your own money for that vehicle. If you want to save some money on oil changes that's up to you.

For me? Oil changes are cheap and easy so I'll keep doing mine at 4-4.5k. Might be overkill sure, but frequent and regular oil and filter changes is the best and cheapest thing you can do to keep your engine working right for as long as possible.
Too bad you aren't doing 3.2K OCIs, I mean, you paid a lot for that vehicle and it's sad to push those OCIs like you are doing. You do you though.
 
Too bad you aren't doing 3.2K OCIs, I mean, you paid a lot for that vehicle and it's sad to push those OCIs like you are doing. You do you though.
Not against 3k oil changes. That's what I used to do when I ran conventional.

But oh, guess you just want to be snarky.
 
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If you're old enough you probably did 1K or 2K oil changes.
Never 1k, unless you count my plow/dump run truck that I do yearly because I only drive it maybe 1k per year, that's different though. Did 2k in high school for a while because that's what my dad and grandpa did. 3 was later when going between conventional to semi-synthetics.
 
If an MPI engine used in mixed highway / suburban driving (90% of USA driving) then 5,000 mile / 6 month OCI’s … If a GDI or GDI Turbo then 3,500 mile / 6 month OCI’s . *Dont kid yourself with GDI / GDI Turbo claims you can go longer with your OCI’s as GDI technology can crap up an oil faster than any technology known to man !
 
If an MPI engine used in mixed highway / suburban driving (90% of USA driving) then 5,000 mile / 6 month OCI’s … If a GDI or GDI Turbo then 3,500 mile / 6 month OCI’s . *Dont kid yourself with GDI / GDI Turbo claims you can go longer with your OCI’s as GDI technology can crap up an oil faster than any technology known to man !
Mr. Subie will see you now …
 
What about the threshold of usefulness 😵‍💫
Yeah - Here is the essential consideration:

What do we gain, as a community, from public discussion and refutation of a specious claim?

What do we lose when the contention and bickering start?

It’s a cost/benefit analysis, in essence.

And, in general, I think the public rebuttal to a specious claim is far more persuasive than a moderator taking action.

For example, we had a couple of threads, in which false claims were made about a site sponsor. Other members refuted that claim, and the claimant modified their statement. That’s both a positive outcome, for all involved, and for the site community. Again, much better than a moderator simply nuking the false claim.

But there are times when, “the juice ain’t worth the squeeze” and that post or thread, is simply deleted before members end up crossing the line for polite discussion. We have had a couple recent threads go south, and a couple of folks get warnings, or worse, and for all concerned, that is unfortunate.

Judgement call on that cost/benefit, of course, but that’s where the decision is made.
 
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If an MPI engine used in mixed highway / suburban driving (90% of USA driving) then 5,000 mile / 6 month OCI’s … If a GDI or GDI Turbo then 3,500 mile / 6 month OCI’s . *Dont kid yourself with GDI / GDI Turbo claims you can go longer with your OCI’s as GDI technology can crap up an oil faster than any technology known to man !
Good to know. I'm still new to this GDI world with one of my cars, no turbo yet though. Don't want to start taking picks and walnuts to the valves for carbon deposits if possible. I've done a seafoam top end cleaner a few times and made a lot of smoke with "spirited driving" afterwards, no clue if this did any good or not.
 
Mr. Subie will see you now …
Sometimes it’s just not worth it….

To buy and change oil at such a frequent pace. Especially when there’s plenty of data to show that the short OCIs actually cost more in the long run and create more waste than using a long-drain capable oil and using it to its potential, and bring no additional longevity to the engine due to more frequent oil changes.
 
Yeah - Here is the essential consideration:

What do we gain, as a community, from public discussion and refutation of a specious claim?

What do we lose when the contention and bickering start?

It’s a cost/benefit analysis, in essence.

And, in general, I think the public rebuttal to a specious claim is far more persuasive than a moderator taking action.

For example, we had a couple of threads, in which false claims were made about a site sponsor. Other members refuted that claim, and the claimant modified their statement. That’s both a positive outcome, for all involved. Again, much better than a moderator simply nuking the false claim.

But there are times when, “the juice ain’t worth the squeeze” and that post or thread, is simply deleted before members end up crossing the line for polite discussion. We have had a couple recent threads go south, and a couple of folks get warnings, or worse, and for all concerned, that is unfortunate.

Judgement call on that cost/benefit, of course, but that’s where the decision is made.
Understand - but strongly feel this guy’s angle collapsed not knowing the early history of that motor. Everything else is the same old debate that a certain member could find two dozen threads on 😉
 
Good to know. I'm still new to this GDI world with one of my cars, no turbo yet though. Don't want to start taking picks and walnuts to the valves for carbon deposits if possible. I've done a seafoam top end cleaner a few times and made a lot of smoke with "spirited driving" afterwards, no clue if this did any good or not.
It didn’t. Pale oil burns off at much too low a temperature to be useful to have any impact on combustion chamber deposits. You need a PEA/PIB/PIBA fuel system cleaner that is consumed over an entire tank of gas.
 
2017 Honda 1.5T, 133K

First 112K was M1 EP every 10-11K miles. Last two oil changes were dealer bulk. (pre-Triple Action)

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It didn’t. Pale oil burns off at much too low a temperature to be useful to have any impact on combustion chamber deposits. You need a PEA/PIB/PIBA fuel system cleaner that is consumed over an entire tank of gas.
Nuts, the smoke is fun though. I have thrown some gumout cleaner with pea a few times. Probably better to bump up my use of that instead of the seafoam. Thanks.
 
2017 Honda 1.5T, 133K

First 112K was M1 EP every 10-11K miles. Last two oil changes were dealer bulk. (pre-Triple Action)

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Wonder what the difference is between the lobes that are really highly polished vs those that aren’t? There’s not even any rhyme or reason since some are intake & some are exhaust, and no pattern to that, either. Looks good otherwise though!
 
Nuts, the smoke is fun though. I have thrown some gumout cleaner with pea a few times. Probably better to bump up my use of that instead of the seafoam. Thanks.
The cheapest Gumout does not have the heavy dose of PEA!
Was it Regane?
 
Wonder what the difference is between the lobes that are really highly polished vs those that aren’t? There’s not even any rhyme or reason since some are intake & some are exhaust, and no pattern to that, either. Looks good otherwise though!
Nose and ramp will be shiny from pressure, base circle will be matte because it barely makes contact with the roller.
 
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