This Video is based on old SN version whereas it is currently SP.. The whole LSPI thing is overblown. Only a few automakers required API SN+ but those owners are probably part of his audience.
Mobil 1 FS 0w40 has bmw longlife 01 again
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This Video is based on old SN version whereas it is currently SP.. The whole LSPI thing is overblown. Only a few automakers required API SN+ but those owners are probably part of his audience.
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What was the date of that video?
Also.... in regards to USA....
That formula (above) is an old SN formulation. New is SP..... much less Calcium and much more Magnesium.
What was the date of that video?
Also.... in regards to USA....
That formula (above) is an old SN formulation. New is SP..... much less Calcium and much more Magnesium.
guys ,did i in anywhere in my comments was interested about when that video was released?
my 2 comments are concerning DI engines and M1 0-40 AND CALCIUM and that its not good for them ..not anybody in this forum believes that. thats why i mention it. and i asked sthing significantly about lspi.what i was told is that it concerns engines over 2000cc..he says small engines too.but bcs. he lives in US and there is a different measure about small engines there i would like if someone of you know for which small engines is he talking about.over or under 2000cc?i never heard anyone saying it comcerns small engines in this forum.
second there are a lot of countries in europe that still have the old M1 FS 0-40.new one is not there yet. in fact i don't think its anywhere in Europe, i searched. so practically SP doesn't exist, so its information for those who own a DI ENGINE and still use it in Europe or anywhere else.
I'm pretty sure at this point just about every Mobil 1 oil except like the motorcycle oils have been updated to an LSPI friendly package with significantly less calcium and more magnesium. So unless you have old stock it should be safe to run in a small displacement tgdi engines.
Calcium in old SN was managed with high levels of other additives, particularly Zinc and phosphorus. You are applying ILSAC issues, very low Zinc and phosphorus levels which inhib d calcium issues. That wasn’t issue in Euro oils which had much better balance of additives and therefore didn’t have issues caused by too much calcium.
It's all related. High calcium (API SN) can cause LSPI. LSPI is a phenomenon that is caused by how some direct injection engines are tuned. This is why the video said the 0w40 may not be a good ideas for DI engines and it's irrelevant with the current formulation.
LSPI is pretty much an issue on small engines generally under 2L, but it depends on how undersized the engine is for the car it's in, if that size of engine would be way undersized for the car it's in without the turbo then it's more likely to experience LSPI, made worse by how the transmission is programmed to shift since most manufacturers are aggressively targeting fuel economy, and also since most of these small displacement engines advertise it's okay to use regular grade gas.
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It's entirely germane, because the current formula of M1 FS 0W-40 is API SP, and has massively reduced levels of calcium (and higher magnesium to make up for it) than the SN formula, which is what he's describing.
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What I was thinking listening to Lake Slow Speed pre ignition
It really depends on the engine and the load conditions. The injector pattern etc all play a role. Either way NBD after SN+.
that is why i asked and its the only useful info-answer, to my first question.thank you.
and this is the second useful -info , to my second question.thank you
the video is just a cause to ask the questions i did. don't stand in the timeline .
i understand that and i agree and i know ,i am here and i contributed to this topic, if you go back to my comments. i posted the video bcs. some bitoggers said it doesn't matter so much to use it on DI engines. .maybe not in this topic ,but there are comments somewhere in the forum in irrelevant topics, which happens as usually.
i wanted to enhance the opinion of eddyw and few others.
and still for someone who owns a DI engine and used that SN M1 ,in the absent of API SP in the market , at least European, might use the old one.
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It's still low risk of LSPI though, due to the higher concentration of ZDDP.
i was in Austria these days and i asked the mobil dealership to inform me if M1 has reached the european market? they told me it is available and they send me by email 1 pds with the new API SP . but no bmwlonglife 1 approval.
here is the pds the Austrian dealership send me.says germany on the top and belgium at the bottom ,but the Austrian dealership send me that.
so i asked one tech advisor we chat online, why is this happening and she told me that their inside files show that there is a bmw longlife1 approval but its not printed in pds. she couldn't explain it. i asked her if it was a print mistake , she doubt that.so what do you guessing?
here is the pds the Austrian dealership send me.says germany on the top and belgium at the bottom ,but the Austrian dealership send me that.
so i asked one tech advisor we chat online, why is this happening and she told me that their inside files show that there is a bmw longlife1 approval but its not printed in pds. she couldn't explain it. i asked her if it was a print mistake , she doubt that.so what do you guessing?
PDS error
they will forward this to the office and they will answer me back in a few days .but its probably an error .
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No LL01 approval on UK, France, or German websites as well. Maybe the same for other countries too.
UK website: https://www.mobil.co.uk/en-gb/engine-oil/mobil-1/car/mobil-1-fs-0w-40
France website: https://www.mobil.fr/fr-fr/products-industrial/mobil-1-fs-0w-40
German website: https://www.mobil.com.de/de-de/products/mobil-1-fs-0w-40
Also, BMW technical document (just pulled from BMW backend) says Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 doesn't have LL01 approval as well. It's most likely that the US website is incorrect or FS 0W-40 for US market is different.
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Not sure what to make of that document, since it doesn't have a single XOM product on the list, and M1 FS 5W-40 also has LL-01:
Including Northern Europe, so yes.. its some error
