Originally Posted By: NightRiderQ45
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Yea sure Mobil 1 cant even pass the SEQ IVA wear test. Pass is under 90 microns of wear Mobil 1 fails allowing 186 microns of wear. These are facts not internet fiction.
I'm pretty sure every word you write is Internet fiction.
They are still API licensed. They may have, in the past that had a bad batch that did NOT pass. And were caught with their pants down. However, that has long since been rectified.
You simply have a hate-on for Mobil. You've made that readily apparent in pretty much every post you've made on this board. When you aren't bashing somebody or plugging Valvoline, you are bashing XOM.
Post #7:
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Proven wear protection... how about Valvoline Synpower 4 times better wear then Mobil 1, thats a FACT.
Post #19
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Valvoline Synpower passed the Seq. test for camshaft wear at less then 30 microns , the limit is 90 microns. MOBIL 1 5w30 failed this test at 186 microns of wear. This amount isn't even good enough too pass GF-3 much less GF-4. So MOBIL 1 doesn't even pass an outdated ILSAC spec. These are facts not hearsay.
Post #20
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Keep in mind if you guys are using Mobil 1 5w30 this oil failed the Camshaft Seq. test for wear. An oil must have less then 90 microns of wear too pass GF-4 . MOBIL 1 5w30 failed this test allowing 186 microns of wear. I wouldn't use MOBIL 1 in my $90.00 push mower.
Post #23
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Mobil is the most secretive oil co. of all, they wont even tell what basestocks they use. Their tech people who answer the phones are Morons. I called and asked easy questions and they couldn't answer one of my questions. Their tech line is a joke.
Post #25
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Sorry Johnny but Mobil 1 doesn't even come close too Valvoline when it comes too wear protection.
Post #28
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Buster : you are too brainwashed by Mobil and their slick advertising , sorry I cant help you anymore. And I never said your engine would fail if you use Mobil 1 , but I know their are much better engine oil choices then Mobil 1.
Post #31
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Mokanic you're absolutely right that's what I've been trying too tell people on here , but their's a lot of Mobil 1 Fanboys on this site. If this was Mobil 1 run in this engine the iron number would be at least twice as high.
Post #32
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Mystic: the Valvoline Synpower is superior too Mobil 1 High Mileage the Ultra looks good on paper but time will tell. Keep in mind Mobil 1 High Mileage is only API SL GF-3 if your car is 2004 or later you must use ILSAC GF-4 oils. Synpower at $4.00 a quart is a steal give it a try I guarantee you will like it. If you want a High Mileage oil you cant beat Maxlife.
Post #34
Originally Posted By: zddp77
calvin...you're a wise man, but you will never convince the Mobil 1 Fanboys on this site , they fall for Mobil's slick advertising hook,line and sinker.
Post #46
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Here's another synthetic that is superior too Mobil 1 , and a dollar a quart cheaper.
Post #65
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Time and time again high Iron with Mobil 1 , this is a 15,000 mile oil run only 4,200 miles with poor results. Switch too any other brand name synthetic and you will get better results. Valvoline Synpower is $4.00 a quart at Walmart run that and I bet your Iron numbers come down.
Post #69
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Excellent used oil analysis as always with Chevron-Havoline oils . Bovinescapegoat , I agree with you 100% if this was Mobil 1 the iron would be at least 4 times higher.
Post #85
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Look for the ILSAC Starburst symbol on the front label , all 0w20 are full synthetic any 0w20 that has the Starburst symbol will work fine in you're Toyota. I would use Valvoline Synpower over Mobil 1. Walmart has it for $4.00 a quart in the 5 quart jugs.
Post #87
Originally Posted By: zddp77
The Mobil 1 Fanboy's will always have an excuse for the high wear metals in Mobil 1 used oil analysis. Their are several conv. oils that outperform Mobil 1 and the proof is right here in the used oil analysis section. I'am glad we have the used oil analysis section on this site it separates fact from fiction... esp. when it comes too Mobil 1. Valvoline knew this when they started their 4X better wear advertising last year...and Mobil never contested their claims.
Post #98
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Castrol use too be the biggest deceiver in engine oils ...that title now belongs too Mobil without a doubt.
Post #101
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Another bad Mobil 1 used oil analysis not only high iron but high copper as well. If you want too use a synthetic use Valvoline Synpower and I guarantee your Iron and copper will be lower. If you want too use conv. Pennzoil, Valvoline, Havoline , Quaker State will all give better results then this garbage Mobil 1.
Post #102
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Mobil NEVER denied Valvoline's claim... Mobil 1 5w30 failed the IVA test by allowing 186 microns of wear , the oil must be under 90 microns too pass this test. tig1 these are FACTS Valvoline Synpower easily passed this test with only 26 microns of wear. tig1 use common sense dont you think Mobil would have sued Valvoline if these claims were not TRUE, they never did. This is a fact weather you want too believe them or not , but you make yourself look stupid by acting like this Valvoline claim isn't true. BTW SAE has nothing too do with the SEQ testing.
Post #114
Originally Posted By: zddp77
What is snake oil...thats easy Mobil 1 the biggest deceiver in engine lubricants.
Post #116
Originally Posted By: zddp77
One can clearly see that PP and Valvoline Synpower are superior too Mobil 1, but I already knew that. It's funny no matter how much proof you have that Mobil 1 is a junk product the Mobil 1 Fanboys will never give in. They always have an excuse for why it turns in bad used oil analysis even when compared too conv. oil.
Post #117
Originally Posted By: zddp77
SEQ.IVA wear test: too recive a pass candidate sample must be under 90 microns of wear... Mobil 1: result 186 microns of wear THAT IS A FAIL ,Valvoline Synpower 26 microns of wear THAT IS A PASS . These are facts not internet hog wash.
Post #118
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Stay with PP much better oil at a much better price , the SUV is just plain old bad Mobil 1 with a different label.
Post #123
Originally Posted By: zddp77
RP your in big trouble now you said Synpower is better then Mobil 1 the Mobil 1 Fanboys will be after you ....BTW your 100% right Synpower is superior too Mobil 1. Glad we have the used oil analysis section it separates fact from fiction esp. regarding Mobil 1. OH one more thing Synpower is 4 times better then Mobil 1 when it comes too protecting the camshaft.
Post #134
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Keep in mind Sopus is getting these results with the additive package used in Ultra not the basestock. I can take a group 2 basestock and if I really do my homework on additive chemistry I can get the same results. This isn't a stupid Mobil 1 frying pan test... LOL.
Post #139
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Both of these brands out preform Mobil 1 , I would use which ever is cheaper. Both are outstanding oils with great R&D people behind them... Johnny knows what I'am talking about
Post #143
Originally Posted By: zddp77
Time and time again bad Mobil 1 results with only 4,000 miles . Try Valvoline Synpower or PP and I guarantee your results will be much better. If you want too use a conventional Pennzoil , Valvoline , Havoline will all give better results then this Mobil 1 garbage.
I'm not sure how transparent you think your vendetta is.... But with 25 of your 147 posts being clearly anti-Mobil (not including the two in this thread)... That is almost 20% of your total post count being dedicated to this cause. It makes it pretty simple to pick up on.....
I'm not a big fan of a couple of oil brands. But I don't make a point of running them into the mud every chance I get like you do with Mobil.
We get it. You don't like XOM. But you've gone well past simply voicing your dislike and have turned this into some sort of hate machine...
Oh wow! I love this post! If you are going to accuse someone of hate, then prove it which this post did! This post PROVES that zddp77 really hates XOM products...what did you get fired from them!? I'm sorry but any flavor of Mobil 1 will perform greatly in all engines! Show me a engine that had Mobil 1 oil related failure??
Lol,always a Mobil 1 bashing with theses type threads ,seen it comeing,ya don't like the oil fine,DON'T POST then!
