Mobil 1 10w30 - 17,000 mi - Dodge Charger

[AlanCanada]

2008 Dodge Charger, Mobil 1 10w30

Engine 3.5L SOHC V6 (EGG)
Transmission 4 Speed Auto (42RLE)

2009.11.8 15769 Fram PH2 / Mobil 1 Synth 10w30
2009.11.10 15800 Changed to MotorCraft FL-820S Filter and topped up oil
2010.5.22 Added 400 ml M1 10w30
2010.12.15 43650 Added 900 mL 10w30 MotorMaster F1 Synthetic
2010.12.21 43665 WearCheck Sample 833113 UOA/TBN

WearCheck Lab comments:
Resample at the next service interval to monitor. All component wear rates are normal. There is no indication of any contamination in the component. The condition of oil is suitable for further service. - KEVIN [12/24/2010 7:35:55 AM]

Fe 42
Cr 2.2
Ni 2.2
Ti 0.0
Ag 0.0
Al 25
Pb 6.9
Cu 97
Sn 0.0
Si 15
Na 26
K 1.7
B 42
Ba 0.0
Mo 101
Mg 18
Ca 2784
P 721
Zn 926
S 1960
Be 0.0
Cd 0.0
Mn 3.1
V 0.0
Sb 1.1
Soot(%) 0
Oxid(PA) 99
Nitr(PA) 77
Sulf(PA) 70
ZDDP 18.5
TBN (IR)
TBN 6.64
Kv@100°C 10.7
Grade SAE 30
Img MPC
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White Metal VLITE
Babbitt NONE
Precipitate NONE
Silt NONE
Debris NONE
Dirt NONE
Appearance NORML
Odor NORML
H2O(Emul) NEG
H2O(Free) NEG

 

[Pablo]

I'm not 100% sure I'm reading this correctly.

It does look like the oil held up OK, but the wear metals look crazy high. Cr, Ni, Sn, are a bit alarming....

 

[oggb]

His wear numbers are the farthest right set of numbers.

Looks great.

 

[oggb]

Looks great.

 

[AlanCanada]

I just adjusted the report, I had the lab ranges in there. Now just the sample results.

 

[addyguy]

I'd like to clarify something - is this 17k MILES, or 17k KM???

Not bad results for 17k, MILES, but we've seen a lot better. IF this is only 17k KM, or 10.5k miles, then the results are horrible!

Al would worry me - it is very high, even for the miles, whatever they are.

 

[Errtt]

It shows TBN twice - the 1st has "(IR)" following it; what does that mean?

 

[AlanCanada]

17,000 mi and 28,000 km roughly.

 

[AlanCanada]

TBN was 6.64, on the Report TBN(IR) was blank.

 

[shpankey]

Is there anyway you could post the average for this vehicle along with the mileage those averages are based on?

This is something that would allow simpleton like me to put these numbers into more of a context, as then one could extrapolate out the numbers to your mileage for a more A-B comparison. If it's a linear process I mean, which I don't know if it is (?).

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: AlanCanada
I just adjusted the report, I had the lab ranges in there. Now just the sample results.


Thanks. I was gonna say...........

Fe 150 | 400 42
Cr 20 | 40 2.2
Ni 5 | 10 2.2
Ti --- | --- 0.0
Ag 2 | 5 0.0
Al 40 | 90 25
Pb 50 | 150 6.9
Cu 155 | 250 97
Sn 10 | 25 0.0
Si 30 | 75 15

Had me shocked!

Looks OK - I would expect a bit lower numbers. Does this engine have an oil cooler or copper lines?

 

[goodtimes]

Silt, dirt, precipitate,debris? Emulsified and free water? I don't understand well the differences in those, except debris can include everything indoors and out, and silt is dirt deposited by a river or body of water. Water is not in solution with motor oil, it is a mixture, or emulsion, and is still free as a bird. So what is the testimony of this company to use such terms?

 

[AlanCanada]

The ranges which I removed were lab guidance numbers. This was the first UOA on this engine. The numbers in the service log are in KM. This was 17,000 mi since the last oil change. Car has about 44,000 KM on it since new.

 

[AlanCanada]

This is a stock Dodge Charger, no modifications.

 

[BR549]

Ok, Just a few questions:
Why was the Fram removed after 2 days?
400 ml is about 1/2 QT??
900 ml is about 1 QT??
Why was 900 ml added and then the oil changed 2 weeks later?
Sorry for the question about ml to qts, but this 'ol Missouri hick still has trouble with the conversions

 

[AlanCanada]

I removed the Fram filter because I was able to acquire the Filter from the Ford dealership that I wanted to use on the engine so I changed it out. The oil was added because the level was low. When I realized I had to add an entire quart 2 weeks ago, I thought I better check my service log, I then realized it had been a really long time since the last change out. My intention was to use the results from this test as guidance if I could wait until the spring to change my oil in the driveway.

 

[kcfx4]

my question is, why on earth would you take this car into such a long oci? regardless of oil or results, there is NO way id go past 12k mi

 

[AlanCanada]

My friend Frank would ask you why you would run beyond 3000 mi. The UOA looks good, if anyone can point out what's wrong with the oil sample I am interested in learning.

 

[FZ1]

Ran it too far. Try 7500. I do like the top ups.

 

[tig1]

Although I have a friend that does 15-18K on M1 5-30, and has 280K on his Silverado 5.3 without a problem, I would feel more like 10K with regular M1.