Those of you running Michelin HydroEdge tires, what are your experiences so far? Like I said in another thread, I'm looking to replace the Pirelli P4's on my Buick with something a little friendlier on gas. Several folks suggested the HydroEdges, and I'm halfway sold. Convince me, folks!
Michelin HydroEdge Experiences
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I have 12K on mine and happy with them. Had the p5s that I bought at Discount and saw the MPG go down so I made a comment to the manager and he said if I would pay the difference that I could get the edges. Glad I did.
I have had them on my 300M for years and they are a good all-season tire. They are a little on the hard side (compound-wise) so don't expect them to grip in the dry like a summer tire. The plus is that they last forever if you keep them balanced and aligned.
My parents have them on their CRV and I find them surprisingly noisy, like they same level as their michelin X-ice snow tires.
Maybe its the vehicle but the hydro edge does have big sections of continuous tread block which can add to road noise.
Maybe its the vehicle but the hydro edge does have big sections of continuous tread block which can add to road noise.
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My parents have them on their CRV and I find them surprisingly noisy, like they same level as their michelin X-ice snow tires.
Maybe its the vehicle but the hydro edge does have big sections of continuous tread block which can add to road noise.
It's probably both. They must have an older generation CR-V (2006 or older), and they are known for higher levels of road noise (as many older Hondas are). And in addition, the HydroEdge is not known to be the quietest tire out there. It seems to be one of the firmer-riding and noisier of Michelin's all-season passenger car tires. Maybe that's the price paid for the extremely long rated wear and good economy, especially at the time of its debut (going on 10 years now I guess).
My parents have them on their CRV and I find them surprisingly noisy, like they same level as their michelin X-ice snow tires.
Maybe its the vehicle but the hydro edge does have big sections of continuous tread block which can add to road noise.
It's probably both. They must have an older generation CR-V (2006 or older), and they are known for higher levels of road noise (as many older Hondas are). And in addition, the HydroEdge is not known to be the quietest tire out there. It seems to be one of the firmer-riding and noisier of Michelin's all-season passenger car tires. Maybe that's the price paid for the extremely long rated wear and good economy, especially at the time of its debut (going on 10 years now I guess).
The Pirelli P4's are the best tire I've ever bought hands down. Great wear, perfect in water and the quietest tire I've ridden on. It would take a lot to make me buy any other set.
I put a set on our company's Honda Odyssey minivan. We liked them so we bought a set for the other van now too.
Decent snow traction, very good wet traction.
Decent snow traction, very good wet traction.
Neighbors put Hydroedges on their Toyota van and hate the tire noise.
My particular P4's have always had a lot of road noise. I'll gladly trade some road noise for better grip, handling, and treadwear.
Sounds like a slightly more fuel-efficient version of the Pirelli P4, from what I've read so far. With the cost of the P4's now equal to the HydroEdges everywhere I've checked, it's a simple choice to get the more fuel-efficient tire.
Sounds like a slightly more fuel-efficient version of the Pirelli P4, from what I've read so far. With the cost of the P4's now equal to the HydroEdges everywhere I've checked, it's a simple choice to get the more fuel-efficient tire.
Originally Posted By: sciphi
My particular P4's have always had a lot of road noise. I'll gladly trade some road noise for better grip, handling, and treadwear.
Sounds like a slightly more fuel-efficient version of the Pirelli P4, from what I've read so far. With the cost of the P4's now equal to the HydroEdges everywhere I've checked, it's a simple choice to get the more fuel-efficient tire.
I too have the P4's on my Altima but the road noise in fine as I wouldn't call the Altima a super quiet car. It's a quiet car but not as quiet as some(Toyota or Buick) but quieter than others.
If the HydroEdge and the P4's are now the same price, it's time to check out the Michelin's this time. And if your looking for a quiet tire, try the Hankook Optimo H727. Not only are they quiet, the rolling resistance is at least average so, MPG should be OK, their winter traction for an A/S tire is top notch, the hydro plaining resistance is very good, the price is probably better (And, And) with a rebate to boot this tire could be the perfect match for the rolling couch. Also, they will handle better than the Buick is capable of anyway, the H727's are a better/less expensive tire than the Good/Year Comfort tread(itself a quiet tire) and the Hankook's rate higher too. And to top it all off, the reviews are incredible.
I can speak for them as there are 3 sets of 4 tires in our circle...Mazda3, Toyota Camry, Honda CR-V. 3 different charactors of vehicles and doing fine on all 3!
My particular P4's have always had a lot of road noise. I'll gladly trade some road noise for better grip, handling, and treadwear.
Sounds like a slightly more fuel-efficient version of the Pirelli P4, from what I've read so far. With the cost of the P4's now equal to the HydroEdges everywhere I've checked, it's a simple choice to get the more fuel-efficient tire.
I too have the P4's on my Altima but the road noise in fine as I wouldn't call the Altima a super quiet car. It's a quiet car but not as quiet as some(Toyota or Buick) but quieter than others.
If the HydroEdge and the P4's are now the same price, it's time to check out the Michelin's this time. And if your looking for a quiet tire, try the Hankook Optimo H727. Not only are they quiet, the rolling resistance is at least average so, MPG should be OK, their winter traction for an A/S tire is top notch, the hydro plaining resistance is very good, the price is probably better (And, And) with a rebate to boot this tire could be the perfect match for the rolling couch. Also, they will handle better than the Buick is capable of anyway, the H727's are a better/less expensive tire than the Good/Year Comfort tread(itself a quiet tire) and the Hankook's rate higher too. And to top it all off, the reviews are incredible.
I can speak for them as there are 3 sets of 4 tires in our circle...Mazda3, Toyota Camry, Honda CR-V. 3 different charactors of vehicles and doing fine on all 3!
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I'm between the Hydroedge and the Cooper cs4, as they are US-made. Won't buy Chinese tires.
My parents have had a set of hydride ss on for a long time, 80k and they have a good deal of tread left. However they did have traction uphill in a snowstorm issues likely because of the hard rubber. I'm torn on which tire to buy. Cooper is less $$$.
My parents have had a set of hydride ss on for a long time, 80k and they have a good deal of tread left. However they did have traction uphill in a snowstorm issues likely because of the hard rubber. I'm torn on which tire to buy. Cooper is less $$$.
I'd like to keep the tires made in the Americas, if at all possible. The Pirellis were made in Brazil. The particular HydroEdges in my size are made in Canada.
Sounds like I have my next set of tires picked out. Now to wait for the Pirellis to wear out this summer so I can pick up the HydroEdges for the fall.
Snow traction isn't a concern, since this car has a full set of snow tires. Although it sounds like I'll be hit even harder by the winter fuel economy blues this next winter, going from a LRR tire to a decidedly non-LRR snow tire.
Sounds like I have my next set of tires picked out. Now to wait for the Pirellis to wear out this summer so I can pick up the HydroEdges for the fall.
Snow traction isn't a concern, since this car has a full set of snow tires. Although it sounds like I'll be hit even harder by the winter fuel economy blues this next winter, going from a LRR tire to a decidedly non-LRR snow tire.
Sciphi,
I have complained this past winter(2010) about the mpg in our cars and I have been using the same tires for several winters. This past winter was the worst for mpg that I can remember. It was almost as though the oil co's were putting something extra(additive) in the fuel for one reason(winter cold/starting) and this hurt mpg even further than the cold alone. As of right now, our cars are now getting the normal mpg for summertime as always!
I have complained this past winter(2010) about the mpg in our cars and I have been using the same tires for several winters. This past winter was the worst for mpg that I can remember. It was almost as though the oil co's were putting something extra(additive) in the fuel for one reason(winter cold/starting) and this hurt mpg even further than the cold alone. As of right now, our cars are now getting the normal mpg for summertime as always!
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Sciphi,
I have complained this past winter(2010) about the mpg in our cars and I have been using the same tires for several winters. This past winter was the worst for mpg that I can remember. It was almost as though the oil co's were putting something extra(additive) in the fuel for one reason(winter cold/starting) and this hurt mpg even further than the cold alone. As of right now, our cars are now getting the normal mpg for summertime as always!
Agreed. My Buick went from ~30 mpg during the summer to 25 mpg this past winter. The Fit also lost about 5 mpg, going from 34 mpg to 29 mpg. Part of that was both cars on snow tires, and likely there was a fuel-related element too.
Oh well. Still looking forward to picking up the HydroEdges. Next debate: order them now with a $70 rebate in effect and sit on them until needed, or wait and miss out on the $70 rebate?
Sciphi,
I have complained this past winter(2010) about the mpg in our cars and I have been using the same tires for several winters. This past winter was the worst for mpg that I can remember. It was almost as though the oil co's were putting something extra(additive) in the fuel for one reason(winter cold/starting) and this hurt mpg even further than the cold alone. As of right now, our cars are now getting the normal mpg for summertime as always!
Agreed. My Buick went from ~30 mpg during the summer to 25 mpg this past winter. The Fit also lost about 5 mpg, going from 34 mpg to 29 mpg. Part of that was both cars on snow tires, and likely there was a fuel-related element too.
Oh well. Still looking forward to picking up the HydroEdges. Next debate: order them now with a $70 rebate in effect and sit on them until needed, or wait and miss out on the $70 rebate?
I will say the Brazilian made Extremecontacs I have are very very good. I'm not a big fan of that particular type of rotation tread design. I've never experienced one that is very quiet.
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I will say the Brazilian made Extremecontacs I have are very very good. I'm not a big fan of that particular type of rotation tread design. I've never experienced one that is very quiet.
Continentals are usually fairly decent until they hit the ~25,000 mile range.
I will say the Brazilian made Extremecontacs I have are very very good. I'm not a big fan of that particular type of rotation tread design. I've never experienced one that is very quiet.
Continentals are usually fairly decent until they hit the ~25,000 mile range.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I'm between the Hydroedge and the Cooper cs4, as they are US-made. Won't buy Chinese tires.
HydroEdges are on my shortlist for my van. The H727 are not, despite the good reviews for this reason - in my size, they are sourced from either China or Korea. I'd buy them if sourced from Korea, but no way will I buy Chinese tires, especially when I'm paying the same kind of money that I could use towards a tire sourced elsewhere. China does not have an inspiring safety record on almost all products. Until things change in that department, I'll be avoiding products sourced there.
Sadly, I see quite a few major tire companies now sourcing from China, including companies like Pirelli, not just the Korean brands who've gone next door to low cost China.
I'm between the Hydroedge and the Cooper cs4, as they are US-made. Won't buy Chinese tires.
HydroEdges are on my shortlist for my van. The H727 are not, despite the good reviews for this reason - in my size, they are sourced from either China or Korea. I'd buy them if sourced from Korea, but no way will I buy Chinese tires, especially when I'm paying the same kind of money that I could use towards a tire sourced elsewhere. China does not have an inspiring safety record on almost all products. Until things change in that department, I'll be avoiding products sourced there.
Sadly, I see quite a few major tire companies now sourcing from China, including companies like Pirelli, not just the Korean brands who've gone next door to low cost China.
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Agree, thus my intent to boycott.
The snowtire comments are interesting. My Goodyear eagle ultra grips on my Saab only give maybe a 1mpg drop, and I log every tank. The Michelin x-ice I run on my old BMW seem to be similar.
I recall seeing that some of the best tires on the rolling resistance test list I saw once were snow tires.
The snowtire comments are interesting. My Goodyear eagle ultra grips on my Saab only give maybe a 1mpg drop, and I log every tank. The Michelin x-ice I run on my old BMW seem to be similar.
I recall seeing that some of the best tires on the rolling resistance test list I saw once were snow tires.
Have a set on my mom's '08 Mazda 3 for about 25k with minimal wear. As for noise, it's noticeable but it doesn't bother me and I haven't heard any complaints from her, but I could see some people being bothered.
BTW, phenomenal in terms of overall wet/snow performance, especially hydroplaning resistance. Also, these are the non-"Green" or whatever ones which I don't think they sell anymore. Not sure how different they are.
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