Michelin Energy Saver A/S Replacements

Well I took some time off today and got the new tires on. Don’t mind my filthy car and wheels. I’ve not had the time to wash recently…

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The tread kind of reminds me of some of the Sears/Michelin weather handler tires of the mid 90s.

They ride nice and smooth. About the same noise, maybe slightly more. Ride well, no issues on varied roads. I got the V speed rated ones, consistent with my OE rating. These are 98V instead of 94V so I’m not sure if that will make them stiffer or ride harder.

Now, MPGs… I put about 28 miles of highway. I’m pretty consistent on the highway at about 42-43 MPG if only highway, much higher when doing mixed or city only (more like 48-60).

This trip, 37.6. It was as low as 35.6 at one point on smooth interstate. Best case that looks like a 10% hit. And I don’t think it’s new vs old tires, as the car has been very consistent on the Michelin tires since new. If anything, MPGs have dropped a bit in time.

I’m not sold that they were as good as my OE Michelins which gave me 90k of service with 4/32 of tread left. Time will tell. But they seem ok.

@CapriRacer when do new tires break in?
 
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Is that due to the casing expanding, i.e. the tire diameter is larger?
less resistance due to firmer tread.
when do new tires break in?
I'm not capriracer but usually done by 500miles or so. Certainly not over 1000 miles.

These are standard tires.. they have much improved traction which is a nice safety feature.

I think you will be closer to 5% mpg drop. 10% is CC2 All-weather territory.

FWIW when I went from the oe yokohama geolandar g91f (terrible) to kumho ku22 which were uhp I lost 10-12% mpg.
 
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Well I took some time off today and got the new tires on. Don’t mind my filthy car and wheels. I’ve not had the time to wash recently…

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The tread kind of reminds me of some of the Sears/Michelin weather handler tires of the mid 90s.

They ride nice and smooth. About the same noise, maybe slightly more. Ride well, no issues on varied roads. I got the V speed rated ones, consistent with my OE rating. These are 98V instead of 94V so I’m not sure if that will make them stiffer or ride harder.

Now, MPGs… I put about 28 miles of highway. I’m pretty consistent on the highway at about 42-43 MPG if only highway, much higher when doing mixed or city only (more like 48-60).

This trip, 37.6. It was as low as 35.6 at one point on smooth interstate. Best case that looks like a 10% hit. And I don’t think it’s new vs old tires, as the car has been very consistent on the Michelin tires since new. If anything, MPGs have dropped a bit in time.

I’m not sold that they were as good as my OE Michelins which gave me 90k of service with 4/32 of tread left. Time will tell. But they seem ok.

@CapriRacer when do new tires break in?
Congrats. I got the same tires. I only have about 800 miles on mine and I have plenty of experience with the same Michelins (roughly 190K miles across 4 sets). These new Continental Truecontact Tour 54 tires really shine in the wet. If the Michelin Energy Saver A/S is a 6/10 in the wet, the old Truecontact Tour would be a 9/10 and this new Truecontact Tour 54 would be a 10/10; I was about to cruise at 80 MPH in heavy rain, with no hydroplaning. They also seem better at absorbing impacts a bit better than the Michelins and previous generation Truecontact Tour. At $150/tire for the Continentals vs $236/tire for the Michelins, it’s a hard bargain to beat.

We shall see about tread wear on the 54s but my previous Truecontact Tour tires took 55K to drop from 11/32” to 6/32”; I just got rid of them because I could no longer confidently drive at elevated Highway speeds (75+ MPH) in the wet.
 
Nice! I like the way continentals look and and always get a dead silent ride for less money. I was a Michelin fan but am slowly converting all my tires over as they wear. The CC2 was a huge $1000 regret and really soured me.
 
Nice! I like the way continentals look and and always get a dead silent ride for less money. I was a Michelin fan but am slowly converting all my tires over as they wear. The CC2 was a huge $1000 regret and really soured me.
I’m not convinced these Continentals are quieter than the OE Michelins. It will take some miles.
 
I think you will love your Contis. I put a set on a friend's '19 CR-V EXL replacing the OE junk rubber; they transformed the SUV.
I've not experienced such a noticable effect.

EV tires are generally low rolling resistance, higher load rating (piggy batteries), improved traction (EV torque) and different materials to support traction, load, etc. That's my understanding.

From where I'm at, it is Michelin or Continental tires for my vehicles going forward.
 
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I’m not convinced these Continentals are quieter than the OE Michelins. It will take some miles.
I’d believe that. Give the contis a thousand miles and see how they are. The pure contacts were some of the squirreliest tires I can remember but settled in nicely with zero road noise. We’ve put 6k on them and they’re still at 10/32. I considered the dws for the looks but chose comfort over performance. Especially with a low pro application. My wife who literally notices nothing even commented how nice they are.
 
I think you will love your Contis. I put a set on a friend's '19 CR-V EXL replacing the OE junk rubber; they transformed the SUV.
I've not experienced such a noticable effect.

EV tires are generally low rolling resistance, higher load rating (piggy batteries), improved traction (EV torque) and different materials to support traction, load, etc. That's my understanding.

From where I'm at, it is Michelin or Continental tires for my vehicles going forward.
Thing is, Honda picked some great tires for my car oe. The fact that I had plenty of tread at 90k is a testament to the selection as an OE tire. Quiet, smooth, comfortable.

I’m not knocking the continentals yet, but I will be pretty upset if they sap that much MPGs long term. I need to do a longer road trip though to validate. Maybe multiple… and more around town to validate that I can still get 50-60 MPG.
 
Can’t argue with that. Oem gets a somewhat deserved bad rap. My 09 Altima came with pro contacts and I got 75k out of them yet my Oem hankooks on my 18 and 21 were cooked at 40k. I may be wrong but I bet Michelin isn’t cheapening up a line just for Honda. I’ve had great luck with Michelin, namely defenders and primacys. I had a set of cross climate 2s installed and regretted every dollar spent. I actually bought an extra set of Oem rims so I can use the Michelins for winter just to get some use out of them.
 
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The Michelin Energy Saver A/S were OE tires on my former 2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0. I hated those tires. They were horrible in wet conditions. They were down to 4/32 at 38,000 miles. I put them in the same category as Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus.
 
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