Michelin Energy Saver A/S Replacements

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My Accord Hybrid is at 90k miles. There’s about 4/32 still on the OE Energy Saver tires that came on the car.

I had talked about this in 2022:
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Thread 'Honda Accord Hybrid Tires'

My 2015 accord hybrid has about 70k on the OE Michelin Energy Saver AS tires. The tread is over half. But it’s getting to be that time, probably when I see a sale in the fall, to get new tires based upon age.

The energy saver AS tires have done well for me. One blew out hitting a bad pothole after a snowstorm, but it was a bad enough hole to damage the wheel too. I put an OE used tire with the same amount of tread and it has been fine.

What should I run? I do have winter tires for the car but haven’t had to run them the last few years because of weather and lockdown.

And now the time has come. The plan was to just get the same…

But it looks to me that these tires have been discontinued. I can’t 100% determine that. Regardless, they’ve become VERY expensive. $269/tire for not a very aggressive or large size.

I’m very concerned about losing MPGs.

I have winter tires that I haven’t used in probably six years now, but that fit the need if it looks like a snowy winter.

So the question is what should I buy? I guess it could be another Michelin tire. I loved these OE tires. They’re reallly great for my needs.

One option is to buy some high tread pull-offs.. yes, used tires. I’ve seen some 2019 date stamp, I’m good with that given how well these have lasted and worn without cracking or rot. But they are 5-6 year old
Tires…

I’m also looking at Vredstein. Specifically the Hi-trac all season.

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They have a far better price and a nice rebate. They seem similar in tread to my current tires.

Any other thoughts or recommendations? My primary interests are: low rolling resistance, low noise, consistent handling (my tires will be V rated per OE spec).
 
I have been very happy with the Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus (215/60/16 V rated). I had them on my previous car. I liked that they weighed less (by as much as 3 lbs) compared to the same size tires in other brands, the price was quite good (compared to Michelin and BF Goodrich) at Costco, and the wear characteristics were just fine for my situation.

Some have said that the tire's not very good in the rain or snow, but sheesh!, they're not snow tires. And they're not a performance tire, so if you like to drive like a teen in a hot Civic, it seems that they're not for you. But I feel they'd be an excellent choice, certainly worthy of serious consideration, for an Accord Hybrid.

I have another brand on my Camry now (circumstances precluded getting the Bridgestones at the time I needed tires), and when it's time, the 'stones will replace them, and I like the tires that are on the car now.

My previous car was a Buick LeSabre, and I consistently got mid-30s mpg on long highway drives. I am convinced that the 'stones helped achieve that result, although other factors contributed as well. Regardless of what you end up with, or what your preferences are, I feel you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't take a good look at the Bridgestones.
 
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JHZR2 said:
My Accord Hybrid is at 90k miles. There’s about 4/32 still on the OE Energy Saver tires that came on the car.

I had talked about this in 2022:
JHZR2

Thread 'Honda Accord Hybrid Tires'

My 2015 accord hybrid has about 70k on the OE Michelin Energy Saver AS tires. The tread is over half. But it’s getting to be that time, probably when I see a sale in the fall, to get new tires based upon age.

The energy saver AS tires have done well for me. One blew out hitting a bad pothole after a snowstorm, but it was a bad enough hole to damage the wheel too. I put an OE used tire with the same amount of tread and it has been fine.

What should I run? I do have winter tires for the car but haven’t had to run them the last few years because of weather and lockdown.

And now the time has come. The plan was to just get the same…

But it looks to me that these tires have been discontinued. I can’t 100% determine that. Regardless, they’ve become VERY expensive. $269/tire for not a very aggressive or large size.

I’m very concerned about losing MPGs.

I have winter tires that I haven’t used in probably six years now, but that fit the need if it looks like a snowy winter.

So the question is what should I buy? I guess it could be another Michelin tire. I loved these OE tires. They’re reallly great for my needs.

One option is to buy some high tread pull-offs.. yes, used tires. I’ve seen some 2019 date stamp, I’m good with that given how well these have lasted and worn without cracking or rot. But they are 5-6 year old
Tires…

I’m also looking at Vredstein. Specifically the Hi-trac all season.

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They have a far better price and a nice rebate. They seem similar in tread to my current tires.

Any other thoughts or recommendations? My primary interests are: low rolling resistance, low noise, consistent handling (my tires will be V rated per OE spec).
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I just bought a set less than 2 months ago and they were about $600 a set.
Who's trying to sell them for $269 a tire?
Are they smoking crack?
I have a leaf so I have to run them. You have a gasoline battery so it seems like you don have to run them.
 
jcy said:
I had a 2021 Venza with Ecopia oem, I was not happy with the highway noise
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My leaf had ecopias on it when I got it. The energy savers are a better tire in every way far as I can tell, except price, but I haven't checked the price. In 2019 I believe the price was effectively the same between the 2.
 
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First, you should expect to take 2 hits in the MPG department: 1) Worn tires get better MPG's than new tires. 2) OE tires get the best MPG's but those aren't available.

Unfortunately, it's probably a few years away that rolling resistance data will be available on tires. Your best bet is to use a tire that has some sort of "Eco" branding. Those are the most likely to have lower RR values.

The Vredestein does not have that, so I'd advise looking at something else.
 
I threw a set of Pirellis from Sam’s club in the same size on my 09 Altima and am impressed for what I paid. I was replacing Michelin defenders so the bar was pretty high, and the Pirellis easily cleared it.
 
skyactiv said:
Look into the Continental TrueContact Tour54 which hasn't been out long. It has a $110 prepaid Visa incentive which expires on 11/30/24.
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Not sure of the true contacts but the pure contacts are fantastic. Just pricey.
 
The Continental TrueContact Tour54 that @skyactiv mentioned is a very new "standard touring all season" that would be a decent choice too.
probably better traction and a smaller trade off on mpg than most.. but just a guess.

For the best MPG stay away from UHP tires and all-weather tires.

If you change a size you have some more options. 215/55r17?
 
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Since you have separate winter tires, you can use summer tires for the rest of the year. That gives you the option to use summer tires, such as
Goodyear EfficientGrip
Michelin Primacy 4

I also found this set of Bridgestone Turanza T005 (2021 DOT, still as good as new)

They are available with speed ratings of V, W, or Y

Grand touring summer tires should give you the results you're looking for.
 
When I replaced the OEM tires on my HAH, I too looked for and selected the Energy. I assumed that Honda selected it to maximize fuel efficiency and I found the tires good in all conditions, so it was an easy choice.
It does appear that this tire is still available, although not cheap.
I'd dance with the one that brung ya, especially given the miles these things seem to be capable of.
 
Shel_B said:
I have been very happy with the Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus (215/60/16 V rated). I had them on my previous car. I liked that they weighed less (by as much as 3 lbs) compared to the same size tires in other brands, the price was quite good (compared to Michelin and BF Goodrich) at Costco, and the wear characteristics were just fine for my situation.

Some have said that the tire's not very good in the rain or snow, but sheesh!, they're not snow tires. And they're not a performance tire, so if you like to drive like a teen in a hot Civic, it seems that they're not for you. But I feel they'd be an excellent choice, certainly worthy of serious consideration, for an Accord Hybrid.

I have another brand on my Camry now (circumstances precluded getting the Bridgestones at the time I needed tires), and when it's time, the 'stones will replace them, and I like the tires that are on the car now.

My previous car was a Buick LeSabre, and I consistently got mid-30s mpg on long highway drives. I am convinced that the 'stones helped achieve that result, although other factors contributed as well. Regardless of what you end up with, or what your preferences are, I feel you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't take a good look at the Bridgestones.
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Any chance these drop fuel consumption by a noticeable amount on a 20 year old grand caravan?
 
Wheel366 said:
What about Pilot Sport AS4? More of a performance tire, EV rated and cheaper than the Energy at Costco?
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I have no idea what EV rated means. I ran the Pilot AS in an earlier version on my old BMW and loved them. But I care mostly about efficiency and noise here.

I have ordered the Continental TrueContact Tour 54 in the V speed rated version. Should be good and stiff and keep thr ride of the car. Hopefully it will keep the quiet on smooth roads.

After rebate they’re over $100 less per tire, installed, than the Michelins at Costco. Hopefully they’re not $100/tire worse…
 
JHZR2 said:
I have no idea what EV rated means. I ran the Pilot AS in an earlier version on my old BMW and loved them. But I care mostly about efficiency and noise here.

I have ordered the Continental TrueContact Tour 54 in the V speed rated version. Should be good and stiff and keep thr ride of the car. Hopefully it will keep the quiet on smooth roads.

After rebate they’re over $100 less per tire, installed, than the Michelins at Costco. Hopefully they’re not $100/tire worse…
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I don't know what it means either. EV rated is listed on Costco's website along with a few other tires. Maybe it is a rolling resistance thing or maybe it has to do with being able to handle the extra weight from EVs? I could google it but I'm being to lazy at the moment. Maybe I'll google tomorrow...
 
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