Originally Posted by y_p_w
Exactly where did I refer to any vehicle tests? The discussion was about how high speed charging affects battery capacity. You're changing the subject again.
Real world results are that the models for battery degradation are pretty reliable. Tesla expects that a Model 3 battery should last at least 300,000 miles before it's maybe down to 80% of the original capacity. I've heard of some owners that have set their max charge to 80% and expect that the battery will last a million miles. And if it fails it can be replaced under warranty or for maybe $5000. I certainly get that there are random failures, but that can happen with any technology. I've had a rear idler gear break necessitating an expensive transmission rebuild. Sometimes engines fail for random reasons. I expect with any vehicle there will be premature failures as well as. I fully expect that the drivetrain will be the most reliable part of an electric car, but the battery might actually fail. But real world results (at least with Tesla that liquid cools their batteries) seem to be that their batteries are pretty reliable.
Those "tests" were on this subject. You need an education and stop taking doubletalk as gospel.
First- batteries don't last "miles" they last charging cycles. ( that's media hype)
Those charging cycles are based on battery usable capacity versus the maximum load ( the part they don't want you knowing the details of- otherwise they wouldn't camouflage it with all the colorful words and abstract references always in some future tense)
Wait till the price of the battery and its dimension comes out ( measured against its life estimate)- to build what they want is possible but it will have to have its own vehicle to tow it while its powering the car.
Cant get a negotiated plea on the laws of physics
You peddle hyperbole you don't understand using comparisons that are non sequitur.
Not the best way to prove a point- yet another fail
Exactly where did I refer to any vehicle tests? The discussion was about how high speed charging affects battery capacity. You're changing the subject again.
Real world results are that the models for battery degradation are pretty reliable. Tesla expects that a Model 3 battery should last at least 300,000 miles before it's maybe down to 80% of the original capacity. I've heard of some owners that have set their max charge to 80% and expect that the battery will last a million miles. And if it fails it can be replaced under warranty or for maybe $5000. I certainly get that there are random failures, but that can happen with any technology. I've had a rear idler gear break necessitating an expensive transmission rebuild. Sometimes engines fail for random reasons. I expect with any vehicle there will be premature failures as well as. I fully expect that the drivetrain will be the most reliable part of an electric car, but the battery might actually fail. But real world results (at least with Tesla that liquid cools their batteries) seem to be that their batteries are pretty reliable.
Those "tests" were on this subject. You need an education and stop taking doubletalk as gospel.
First- batteries don't last "miles" they last charging cycles. ( that's media hype)
Those charging cycles are based on battery usable capacity versus the maximum load ( the part they don't want you knowing the details of- otherwise they wouldn't camouflage it with all the colorful words and abstract references always in some future tense)
Wait till the price of the battery and its dimension comes out ( measured against its life estimate)- to build what they want is possible but it will have to have its own vehicle to tow it while its powering the car.
Cant get a negotiated plea on the laws of physics
You peddle hyperbole you don't understand using comparisons that are non sequitur.
Not the best way to prove a point- yet another fail