The laws exist (see my post #56). It's kinda like strawbuyers and firearms. Plausible deniability will be used to help justify moving product.
Maine's requiring VIN etching onto catalytic converters
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Possession of drugs is illegal, possession of catalytic converters is not, not sure how you drew that comparison.
So “ I don’t know” or “do not answer questions” is a very appropriate response if questioned by the police. Unless of course you want to incriminate yourself. Police cannot impede your travels or your business simply because you possess an item that if frequently stolen.
But what is being proposed by some here would give them exactly that. And for what? Some measly cat converters?
What’s next? Checkpoints to make sure your cat converter is marked? If not, off to jail you go? Where does this silliness stop?
Yo don't think that possession of catalytic converters with serials ground off will be illegal? If drugs don't work for you lets try firearms with ground serials.
If that’s true then wow! Talk about overreach over something so inconsequential.
Let’s wait and see if it has any effect if any on the thefts. I hardly doubt it.
Ya I don't think it'll work because criminals will coalesce around each other in order to attempt to hide their operations. See my post #56.
Possession of stolen catalytic converters is ... that's the scope of the discussion.
So some dude gets pulled over with 20 cut-off cats in his trunk with half of them engraved with a vehicle VIN. If he says "I don't know anything about those cats" the cops just say "Ok, have a nice day" and let him go on his way without checking the situation out some more, lol.
Inconsequential? 52,200 stolen cat claims in 2021 alone according to this article:
Catalytic converter thefts rising, costing victims thousands of dollars
Catalytic converter theft is on the rise in some Dayton-area communities
As a nation n nour politicians coddle the criminals.
There were 286.9 million registered cars in 2020. That is a fraction of one percent. Inconsequential.Inconsequential? 52,200 stolen cat claims in 2021 alone according to this article:
Catalytic converter thefts rising, costing victims thousands of dollars
Catalytic converter theft is on the rise in some Dayton-area communitieswww.daytondailynews.com
Your idea of a bust must be from movies or something. It sure happens from time to time, mostly to some stupid small fry, but criminals and especially large operations, are caught though investigation and detective work. Not luck of the draw by pulling someone over a non-operating turn signal. Perhaps that is why you think this new law will somehow have an effect on this particular crime.
Timothy McVeigh was caught because he was driving a car that was missing a license plate.
Police History: How Trooper Charlie Hanger caught the Oklahoma City bomber
Trooper Charlie Hanger's traffic stop resulted in the Oklahoma City bombers being brought swiftly to justice
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Did that lead to a collapse of a major criminal ring or gang? Because catalytic converter theft is an organized crime. Capture of few small thieves though shear luck will not have any effect on these thefts.Timothy McVeigh was caught because he was driving a car that was missing a license plate.
Police History: How Trooper Charlie Hanger caught the Oklahoma City bomber
Trooper Charlie Hanger's traffic stop resulted in the Oklahoma City bombers being brought swiftly to justice
No, it just lead to the capture of a guy who blew up a Federal building.
A pretty minor thing...
And how does that relate to passing a law that requires etching of VIN onto the catalytic converters? Did we need to pass some special law to capture this bomber and though shear luck?
You're not even replying in context to my comment ... side tracking. Cops can certainly "impede your travels or your business" if there is probable cause to make them think a crime is being conducted. A trunk full of cut-off cats (some with VINs engraved in them) would/should certainly raise some suspicions to any police officer.
You make the claim that police pulling over vehicles for failure to signal and such does not result in large busts. Your claim is specious at best and there are many examples showing otherwise.
EDIT: I'm reminded of the time that the cops pulled over a car speeding on I95 in Virginia and found a dead body in the trunk.
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Someone brings a cat to a recycler with a fresh grinding scar might be a clue...
And what is a safe VIN?
And what is a safe VIN?
How about something like this but rig the catalytic convertor instead.
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