M1 EP 0W20 in BMW X3 outside of warranty?

[wavinwayne]

For curiosity's sake, since all of my other cars use M1 EP 0W20, would any harm come to the engine of my wife's 2020 BMW X3 with the 2.0L twin turbo if I used this oil in it? My wife drives like a grandma going to church. This would be once the car is out of warranty. I don't mind spending the money for oil that meets the proper BMW spec, but I'm having trouble convincing myself that M1 wouldn't be fine, and it would simplify my oil inventory. What say you all?

 

[wemay]

Euro 0W20's (at least VW 508 and MB 229.71) are more stout than ILSAC due to demanding approvals. I would stick with the BMW 0W20 or move up to Euro 5/0W30

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[Furious]

You might want to check out FCP Euro they offer free lifetime oil replacement last I knew, unless this has changed someone can chime in on this.

What they supposedly do is have you send in your old oil and the container and they credit your account for the replacement. I would certainly consider them for any European/German cars if I had any.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

For curiosity's sake, since all of my other cars use M1 EP 0W20, would any harm come to the engine of my wife's 2020 BMW X3 with the 2.0L twin turbo if I used this oil in it? My wife drives like a grandma going to church. This would be once the car is out of warranty. I don't mind spending the money for oil that meets the proper BMW spec, but I'm having trouble convincing myself that M1 wouldn't be fine, and it would simplify my oil inventory. What say you all?

It's probably okay but everyone is guessing because BMW doesn't publish useful information regarding their requirements.

 

[wavinwayne]

You might want to check out FCP Euro they offer free lifetime oil replacement last I knew, unless this has changed someone can chime in on this.

What they supposedly do is have you send in your old oil and the container and they credit your account for the replacement. I would certainly consider them for any European/German cars if I had any.

Holy moly! I searched their site and can't find anything that excludes oil. Mental gears turning.....

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[BMWTurboDzl]

Holy moly! I searched their site and can't find anything that excludes oil. Mental gears turning.....

FCP Euro Lifetime Auto Parts Replacement Guarantee | FCP Euro

Every product you buy from FCP Euro is guaranteed for life for your ownership of the vehicle. This lifetime replacement guarantee covers everything we sell, including wear-and-tear items like brake pads, gaskets, rotors, filters, and wiper blades.

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Yep. It's all about the cost of shipping and your time.

 

[Furious]

Holy moly! I searched their site and can't find anything that excludes oil. Mental gears turning.....

FCP Euro Lifetime Auto Parts Replacement Guarantee | FCP Euro

Every product you buy from FCP Euro is guaranteed for life for your ownership of the vehicle. This lifetime replacement guarantee covers everything we sell, including wear-and-tear items like brake pads, gaskets, rotors, filters, and wiper blades.

www.fcpeuro.com

I would contact them and see if it fits your needs and if you feel it is a good option for you.

 

[JavierH19]

Technically it isn't since it isn't ll-17fe rated but i doubt it would do much more damage the chains any more than the proper oil, but it will wear the chains out a bit faster. Won't matter if you plan on dumping it at 100k though. I don't know if you're a 100k or 400k owner. I'm at 335k with my 05 gmc and I'm still gonna keep putting miles on it and will keep using 0/5/15w-40.

Beyond the warranty I'd use an ll-01 or 04 oil. I wouldn't bother continuing to use 0w-20 even if it was bmw ll-17fe rated. Castrol does make a euro ll-17fe+ 0w-20 but i wouldn't care for it. Use something ll-01 rated.

 

[Vermess]

I was under the impression that the 2.0 is a single turbo.....

personally, I wouldn't do it. Out of warranty, I'd go the other way to a 40 grade.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I was under the impression that the 2.0 is a single turbo.....

personally, I wouldn't do it. Out of warranty, I'd go the other way to a 40 grade.

Iirc it's twin scroll which is a tweener.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I was under the impression that the 2.0 is a single turbo.....

personally, I wouldn't do it. Out of warranty, I'd go the other way to a 40 grade.

Iirc it's twin scroll which is a tweener.

 

[Vermess]

Iirc it's twin scroll which is a tweener.

I think you're correct. If I'm not mistaken, it's the same engine as the new mini.

That little tiny turbo gets worked, that's why I'd personally step to a 40....timing chain also.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Euro 0W20's (at least VW 508 and MB 229.71) are more stout than ILSAC due to demanding approvals. I would stick with the BMW 0W20 or move up to Euro 5/0W30

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online.lubrizol.com

Just me perhaps but I'd switch up to 0W-40 with the Turbo.

 

[Titan]

She drives it "like a grandma". 0w20 will be fine. I run an Xw30 in my 300+ HP mini with this B48 engine.

 

[wavinwayne]

I was under the impression that the 2.0 is a single turbo.....

personally, I wouldn't do it. Out of warranty, I'd go the other way to a 40 grade.

My mistake, I believe it is a single turbo.

 

[wavinwayne]

She drives it "like a grandma". 0w20 will be fine. I run an Xw30 in my 300+ HP mini with this B48 engine.

I doubt my wife will ever know the potential of the 2.0T unless I'm driving it....which I am to the beach next week.

 

[SavetheRimBrake]

M1 EP 0w-20 is a great oil, and for the VAST majority of normal drivers who noodle around at 2000RPM all day, its more than adequate.

 

[The Critic]

M1 EP 0w-20 is a great oil, and for the VAST majority of normal drivers who noodle around at 2000RPM all day, its more than adequate.

Never underestimate the weird complexities of euro engines.

 

[dogememe]

Never underestimate the weird complexities of euro engines.

Probably trying to push the cost onto the end user instead of designing it right to begin with!

 

[The Critic]

Probably trying to push the cost onto the end user instead of designing it right to begin with!

The european manufacturers have a twisted definition of "right."