What do you mean ? Who says not to lubricate them ?So I just found out that I SHOULDN'T have greased my wifes caliper pins. Its that style where the pin is exposed slightly/ semi floating... Its the ATE caliper style.
extremely common design and they don’t need any lubrication for any reasonWhat do you mean ? Who says not to lubricate them ?
Got a picture of this caliper design / slide pins you're referring to ?
Yep those are exactly the ones on my BMW. No lubrication per the FSM despite the packet of lube shown in your pictureextremely common design and they don’t need any lubrication for any reason
Someone referenced "ATE" and that piqued my curiosity. My wife's Fusion has these calipers and I lube the slides.extremely common design
Where/who says not to lubricate them ? Oftentimes, the OE supplier will say one thing, one automaker says the opposite, another automaker agrees/follows the OE.and they don’t need any lubrication for any reason
I have the ford FSM and I double triple checked, I don't see any mention of lubing them... I did it without checking, don't assume lol.note to self.Someone referenced "ATE" and that piqued my curiosity. My wife's Fusion has these calipers and I lube the slides.
Where/who says not to lubricate them ? Oftentimes, the OE supplier will say one thing, one automaker says the opposite, another automaker agrees/follows the OE.
The Fusion, and many other models, have the same or very similar pins shown in 2EHA's picture above. It has the same sleeves that, from my memory, are positioned on the inside caliper side and the slide pins thread into the outer caliper.it's the slide pins that go into a metal bushing
My Bimmer E31 FSM says specifically not to lubricate the pins.I have the ford FSM and I double triple checked, I don't see any mention of lubing them... I did it without checking, don't assume lol.note to self.
^^^This^^^I use SIL glide too, no need for anything else. Regular anti seize for the rotor hat. Good to go
You can't just say you have an E31 and not show us the E31My Bimmer E31 FSM says specifically not to lubricate the pins.
That stuff is esoteric - think GM might be using it. Toyota’s red rubber grease is easier to obtain. It’s a red glycol based grease, lithium soap thickener.For caliper slide pins I have used Sil-Glyde in the past. Currently trying Raybestos DBL-2T (Silicone with PTFE) there. Would like to try a dedicated slide pin grease like Molykote G-3407 but cannot find a source.
For the backs of pads, between the shims and pad backer plate, the contact points I've had good luck with Permatex Purple though Raybestos DBL-2T would likely work fine there as well.
Before choosing Raybestos DBL-2T for my Subaru's pin slides I was considering Toyota Red Rubber Grease but there seemed to be some debate even within the Toyota community as to which grease to use for the pin slides. That may be settled now (in favour of Red Rubber Grease) as X15 has done some great research in this thread:That stuff is esoteric - think GM might be using it. Toyota’s red rubber grease is easier to obtain. It’s a red glycol based grease, lithium soap thickener.
I’m actually using Permatex Silicone Ceramic Extreme(orange colored) Brake Grease on the slide pins of a 2nd gen Prius. There’s no rubber bushing on it like some Toyotas and many Subaru. But there’s still a rubber pin boot and bushing(one piece). It seems to work fine, calipers were moving and no uneven wear.If I had to choose one grease for all applications though, I'd probably go with something silicone based.