Long range shooting'

Carlos Hathcock was the most famous U.S. sniper during Vietnam. He shot at the reflection of the VC sniper's scope and his shot went through the scope's lens into the snipers eye.


I was going from memory...

I actually had his last name in my head. Just wasn't sure about his first name.

That was an amazing encounter that he had and the position of both and the change in the sun angle made the difference.
 
I was going from memory...

I actually had his last name in my head. Just wasn't sure about his first name.

That was an amazing encounter that he had and the position of both and the change in the sun angle made the difference.
If you find his story’s interesting someone wrote a book about his missions with his help. It’s called “Marine Sniper”. I highly recommend it. Then if you like that one they did anther book with the story’s they cropped from the first one, can’t recall the name of that one.
 
Carlos Hathcock was the most famous U.S. sniper during Vietnam. He shot at the reflection of the VC sniper's scope and his shot went through the scope's lens into the snipers eye.
A few of his "works" were replicated in the movie "Sniper" with Tom Berenger and Billy Zane.
 
You still have to deal with temperature and altitude at longer distances. Every 1,000 ft in altitude change will affect the impact of the bullet by one inch at 1,000 yards. Same applies with temperature every 10 degree increase or decrease will also change the impact point by one inch at 1,000 yards. You zero your rifle at Sea Level and at 60 degrees. You then go hunting in the Rockies at 5,000 feet and it's 30 degrees out you will have to adjust for the change. Your taking a shot at 500 yards so the bullet due to the altitude will hit 2.5 inches high, with the temperature change the bullet will hit 1.5 inch low. So the bullet will hit 1.0 inch high at 500 yards.
 
You still have to deal with temperature and altitude at longer distances. Every 1,000 ft in altitude change will affect the impact of the bullet by one inch at 1,000 yards. Same applies with temperature every 10 degree increase or decrease will also change the impact point by one inch at 1,000 yards. You zero your rifle at Sea Level and at 60 degrees. You then go hunting in the Rockies at 5,000 feet and it's 30 degrees out you will have to adjust for the change. Your taking a shot at 500 yards so the bullet due to the altitude will hit 2.5 inches high, with the temperature change the bullet will hit 1.5 inch low. So the bullet will hit 1.0 inch high at 500 yards.
I kinda know almost all that needs to be done, but I don't how to and never have done it. !
 
@wpod See my post from Oct 11. It's in the book Precision Shooting at 1,000 yards. Also goes into the rotation of the earth affect on the bullet as well as the direction your shooting. What direction counter to the earths rotation NESW are you shooting. As well as shooting above or below the equator and bullet spin affecting the trajectory.
 
Yep the Coriolis effect is a big factor in long range shooting...

I was surprised and yet not surprised that would be a factor in long shots.
 
The Parma Idaho gun club has some long distance shooting targets. My real purpose shooting these days is to see if I can wear out my Springfield XD Tactical in 40 S&W. There were 2 guys shooting at the 700 yard and 750 yard targets so in my usual uncouth way I approached them and asked if I could watch them shooting. It is amazing to hear the muzzle blast the count the seconds before you hear the ding from the bullet hitting the metal! .We chatted for a while and the guys asked me if I wanted to try the rifles. I have never shot over 300 yards and I rarely shoot a rifle . Hesitantly I agreed to try their rifles. I dry fired a few times to test the trigger pull and asked the dumb question if the scopes were dialed in for the range and yes they were. 5 Shots and 5 hits at the point of aim with the guys coaching me . Yes , the guys did the brain work but was good for me to make the hits at that distance.
That range has really developed well!

Most of the steel on the range came from my wife's family's business "Parma Company".
 
There are also NRL22 or PRS where one can shoot .22LR and ammo is cheap/er and barrels don't get worn/burned out after 300-500 shots. .22LR can be shot out to 300 yards just fine.
Shooters use ballistic calcs now like Applied Ballistics and GeoBallistics. There are rangefinders and binoculars with built in calculators and phone app can pull weather from nearest station or one can use wind meter for app to calculate elevation and windage for your rifle, ammo and scope setup.
This is what I'm into lately, rifle is Savage Mark II FV with heavy barrel (not expensive), MDT Oryx stock, scope is Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25x56 MRAD, rangefinder is Vortex Razor HD 4000GB, MDT 40 MOA rail, got it all last year and having fun with the setup. Rifle seems to like SK ammo (basically Lapua) from mid priced offerings.
 
The Parma Idaho gun club has some long distance shooting targets. My real purpose shooting these days is to see if I can wear out my Springfield XD Tactical in 40 S&W. There were 2 guys shooting at the 700 yard and 750 yard targets so in my usual uncouth way I approached them and asked if I could watch them shooting. It is amazing to hear the muzzle blast the count the seconds before you hear the ding from the bullet hitting the metal! .We chatted for a while and the guys asked me if I wanted to try the rifles. I have never shot over 300 yards and I rarely shoot a rifle . Hesitantly I agreed to try their rifles. I dry fired a few times to test the trigger pull and asked the dumb question if the scopes were dialed in for the range and yes they were. 5 Shots and 5 hits at the point of aim with the guys coaching me . Yes , the guys did the brain work but was good for me to make the hits at that distance.
Palma does not use scopes, it’s iron sights only.

They might look like little scopes down there on that LONG barrel end, but they are just (expensive) irons.
 
There are also NRL22 or PRS where one can shoot .22LR and ammo is cheap/er and barrels don't get worn/burned out after 300-500 shots. .22LR can be shot out to 300 yards just fine.
Shooters use ballistic calcs now like Applied Ballistics and GeoBallistics. There are rangefinders and binoculars with built in calculators and phone app can pull weather from nearest station or one can use wind meter for app to calculate elevation and windage for your rifle, ammo and scope setup.
This is what I'm into lately, rifle is Savage Mark II FV with heavy barrel (not expensive), MDT Oryx stock, scope is Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25x56 MRAD, rangefinder is Vortex Razor HD 4000GB, MDT 40 MOA rail, got it all last year and having fun with the setup. Rifle seems to like SK ammo (basically Lapua) from mid priced offerings.
300?

My cz455 will hit an IPSC profile at 500y pretty regularly with just a 30moa base and a lot of travel in the SWFA optic.

Pop…one, one thousands, two one thousand, three one thousand TING!
 
300?

My cz455 will hit an IPSC profile at 500y pretty regularly with just a 30moa base and a lot of travel in the SWFA optic.

Pop…one, one thousands, two one thousand, three one thousand TING!
500 yards is somewhat extreme with 22LR, and I don't really see a point to take it that far, there are other calibers to shoot at that distance, especially if they have any practical application like hunting where bullet needs to have sufficient energy for the task when hitting the target.
I'm not interested in investing into and shooting other calibers or taking it out to 1700 or 2500 yards or so. Shooting rifle while using electronic ballistic helpers is new to me, shot larger calibers farther, and 22lr at 20 to 25 yards indoor. Just building proper skills and putting together equipment to teach my grand sons in a few years and to give them the rifle. One of the reasons I went with Vortex is they offer lifetime unconditional warranty.
I strongly believe everyone needs to learn well driving, swimming, camping and shooting skills.
 
500 yards is somewhat extreme with 22LR, and I don't really see a point to take it that far, there are other calibers to shoot at that distance, especially if they have any practical application like hunting where bullet needs to have sufficient energy for the task when hitting the target.
I'm not interested in investing into and shooting other calibers or taking it out to 1700 or 2500 yards or so. Shooting rifle while using electronic ballistic helpers is new to me, shot larger calibers farther, and 22lr at 20 to 25 yards indoor. Just building proper skills and putting together equipment to teach my grand sons in a few years and to give them the rifle. One of the reasons I went with Vortex is they offer lifetime unconditional warranty.
I strongly believe everyone needs to learn well driving, swimming, camping and shooting skills.
Agree completely. I Just do it for the skill development because if you can read enough wind to make regular hits at 500 with 22LR, then it’s cake with bigger cartridges shooting much slicker bullets at faster speeds.
 
I still think 300 is good enough, one can shoot paper plates to make impacts visible, walking back and forth to put up targets and to clean up after even at 300 yards is already a bit of a chore.
 
Agree completely. I Just do it for the skill development because if you can read enough wind to make regular hits at 500 with 22LR, then it’s cake with bigger cartridges shooting much slicker bullets at faster speeds.
How much elevation are you holding at 500 and what ammo are you using?
 
How much elevation are you holding at 500 and what ammo are you using?
Wolf Match Target is my primary load (older stuff made by SK, not newer Eley load) Been awhile since I shot that distance, but I think I was about maxed out around 90 MOA. 30 MOA on my rail, 40 moa on my scope elevation and 20 moa of holdover in the reticle.
 
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