hooligan, if you aren't comfortable adding Moly yourself, there are options. Those oils that boxcartommie recommended as well as Pennzoil Yellow Bottle, which has shown around 300ppm Moly.
LAT Liquid Friction Reducer Engine Oil Additive
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I dont like to add oil additives. I was just wondering if there were any negetive side effects to possibly having too much moly inside an engine. Or, adding moly to an oil that doesnt use moly, or the corrosion inhibitors at all. This thread had me intrigued at the beginning when boxcar said he had noticably good things happen after adding the LAT, then my mind started wondering and thinking about side effects.
if i thought it would hurt then i would not use it.alot of tests on additives are done by the oil companies so i am confident about moly and other additives...i would have no doubts to using this in a oil with no moly...just give it a try use just 6 oz if you want.none of what i say is not scientific but just an observance and what i have learned.
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Originally Posted By: hooligan24
I dont like to add oil additives. I was just wondering if there were any negetive side effects to possibly having too much moly inside an engine. Or, adding moly to an oil that doesnt use moly, or the corrosion inhibitors at all. This thread had me intrigued at the beginning when boxcar said he had noticably good things happen after adding the LAT, then my mind started wondering and thinking about side effects.
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
I dont like to add oil additives. I was just wondering if there were any negetive side effects to possibly having too much moly inside an engine. Or, adding moly to an oil that doesnt use moly, or the corrosion inhibitors at all. This thread had me intrigued at the beginning when boxcar said he had noticably good things happen after adding the LAT, then my mind started wondering and thinking about side effects.
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
There are potential side effects to everything, including moly. Whatever you want to add to an engine oil, you have to formulate the oil in such a way as to mitigate those potential side effects. On the other hand, if you think it's too much trouble, you can go another route. It's a judgment call by the formulator.
Again, the (potential!) problem with adding something like moly to an oil that doesn't have a lot of it to begin with is that the oil might not be formulated to take advantage of the moly and reduce its side effects. It's like installing lowering springs in your car: it improves handling for some cars and worsens handling for others, depending on how the car was made to begin with.
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
There are potential side effects to everything, including moly. Whatever you want to add to an engine oil, you have to formulate the oil in such a way as to mitigate those potential side effects. On the other hand, if you think it's too much trouble, you can go another route. It's a judgment call by the formulator.
Again, the (potential!) problem with adding something like moly to an oil that doesn't have a lot of it to begin with is that the oil might not be formulated to take advantage of the moly and reduce its side effects. It's like installing lowering springs in your car: it improves handling for some cars and worsens handling for others, depending on how the car was made to begin with.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
There are potential side effects to everything, including moly. Whatever you want to add to an engine oil, you have to formulate the oil in such a way as to mitigate those potential side effects. On the other hand, if you think it's too much trouble, you can go another route. It's a judgment call by the formulator.
Again, the (potential!) problem with adding something like moly to an oil that doesn't have a lot of it to begin with is that the oil might not be formulated to take advantage of the moly and reduce its side effects. It's like installing lowering springs in your car: it improves handling for some cars and worsens handling for others, depending on how the car was made to begin with.
I agree, good post.
I've still wondered whether or not with the tiny tiny sized particles in say Lubro Moly's formulated additive MoS2(molybdenum disulfide), where those would actually cause more wear initially by trying to plate the metal(since its a metal on metal thing?), I suppose that it's formulated in such a way that they aren't jagged or something along those lines??? Just always wondered there...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum_disulfide
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
There are potential side effects to everything, including moly. Whatever you want to add to an engine oil, you have to formulate the oil in such a way as to mitigate those potential side effects. On the other hand, if you think it's too much trouble, you can go another route. It's a judgment call by the formulator.
Again, the (potential!) problem with adding something like moly to an oil that doesn't have a lot of it to begin with is that the oil might not be formulated to take advantage of the moly and reduce its side effects. It's like installing lowering springs in your car: it improves handling for some cars and worsens handling for others, depending on how the car was made to begin with.
I agree, good post.
I've still wondered whether or not with the tiny tiny sized particles in say Lubro Moly's formulated additive MoS2(molybdenum disulfide), where those would actually cause more wear initially by trying to plate the metal(since its a metal on metal thing?), I suppose that it's formulated in such a way that they aren't jagged or something along those lines??? Just always wondered there...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum_disulfide
BITOG has a moly basics on the home page. Seems that coating the oil pan when it settles out, and the cost are the drawbacks to very high moly content.
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
yes,iam sure red line,motul,torco,and other companies that use alot of moly in there oils know what they are doing. i only added 6 oz.iam very comfortable with lubegard and lat...
Why do you use both LAT and Lubegard together? Have you just tried LAT by itself to see how it compares to Lubegard Bio-Tech? Do you think LAT provides the same level of boundary lubrication that Lubegard does?
yes,iam sure red line,motul,torco,and other companies that use alot of moly in there oils know what they are doing. i only added 6 oz.iam very comfortable with lubegard and lat...
Why do you use both LAT and Lubegard together? Have you just tried LAT by itself to see how it compares to Lubegard Bio-Tech? Do you think LAT provides the same level of boundary lubrication that Lubegard does?
i like what lubegard does and i like whats in a professional additive...no scientific reason thats why i just use 6 oz each....i like how the cars drive..yes, all this is way overkill...
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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
There are potential side effects to everything, including moly. Whatever you want to add to an engine oil, you have to formulate the oil in such a way as to mitigate those potential side effects. On the other hand, if you think it's too much trouble, you can go another route. It's a judgment call by the formulator.
Again, the (potential!) problem with adding something like moly to an oil that doesn't have a lot of it to begin with is that the oil might not be formulated to take advantage of the moly and reduce its side effects. It's like installing lowering springs in your car: it improves handling for some cars and worsens handling for others, depending on how the car was made to begin with.
I agree
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
I would think if there were side effects to having too much moly in an engine oil companies that have a "ton" of moly in their oils would not do that.
There are potential side effects to everything, including moly. Whatever you want to add to an engine oil, you have to formulate the oil in such a way as to mitigate those potential side effects. On the other hand, if you think it's too much trouble, you can go another route. It's a judgment call by the formulator.
Again, the (potential!) problem with adding something like moly to an oil that doesn't have a lot of it to begin with is that the oil might not be formulated to take advantage of the moly and reduce its side effects. It's like installing lowering springs in your car: it improves handling for some cars and worsens handling for others, depending on how the car was made to begin with.
I agree
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
i called dave at red line and asked him the question of adverse affects of too much moly. he said none.moly is a great fm and anti wear additive
Dave knows a thing or two about oil, he won't steer you wrong!
i called dave at red line and asked him the question of adverse affects of too much moly. he said none.moly is a great fm and anti wear additive
Dave knows a thing or two about oil, he won't steer you wrong!
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