Lack of Castrol GTX Popularity
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I really think Castrol GTX was ahead of the curb on it's 'sludge fighting' formula.
Castrol realized there was an issue with some engines sludging up, so they put extra detergents in their oil to counteract this. now everyone has jumped on the bandwagon - Havoline 'Deposit Sheild' and Pennzoils '40%' sludge-fighting claims.
Not that Castrol was the first to realize the benefit of detergents on oil, but they seemed to be the first to capitalize of having extra detergency.
If you look at their oils today, they still, in my book, seem to have more detergency than other oils - the latest PQIA test revealed an add-pack containing 2189ppm Ca, and 357ppm Na - that's a stron g add-pack, when most other oils are around 1700-1900 Ca in their formula.
Also, we've seen a couple of 10k runs on GTX that turned out pretty darn good - I'd say GTX is one of the 'stouter' conventionals out there.
Castrol realized there was an issue with some engines sludging up, so they put extra detergents in their oil to counteract this. now everyone has jumped on the bandwagon - Havoline 'Deposit Sheild' and Pennzoils '40%' sludge-fighting claims.
Not that Castrol was the first to realize the benefit of detergents on oil, but they seemed to be the first to capitalize of having extra detergency.
If you look at their oils today, they still, in my book, seem to have more detergency than other oils - the latest PQIA test revealed an add-pack containing 2189ppm Ca, and 357ppm Na - that's a stron g add-pack, when most other oils are around 1700-1900 Ca in their formula.
Also, we've seen a couple of 10k runs on GTX that turned out pretty darn good - I'd say GTX is one of the 'stouter' conventionals out there.
I agree with addguy this oil also gets thrashed around on price when most people lust over high priced boutique oils giving reasons for the higher price on how good the oil is yet when GTX comes up it's always the price without EVER looking at the oil.
I like Castrol products, and think GTX is one of the best if not the best conventional products.. I also don't advertise M1 products in the forum... so that gives me a unbiased opinion of many oils... Castrol GTX is and has been an outstanding oil for a LONG time..
Now those charts posted on how good castrol is in areas are suspect... and I agree LOL a conventional being compared to other synthetics and beating many of them out in areas where a synthetic should be owning conventional ??
I like Castrol products, and think GTX is one of the best if not the best conventional products.. I also don't advertise M1 products in the forum... so that gives me a unbiased opinion of many oils... Castrol GTX is and has been an outstanding oil for a LONG time..
Now those charts posted on how good castrol is in areas are suspect... and I agree LOL a conventional being compared to other synthetics and beating many of them out in areas where a synthetic should be owning conventional ??
1) It isn't on sale much
2) Many people here don't like Castrol's marketing
3) Many People still remember it is Castrol who started the Group III = synthetic campaign back then, and retaliate by not buying Castrol.
4) Many times I can get synthetic for their price (when comparing both on sale), so what's the point?
2) Many people here don't like Castrol's marketing
3) Many People still remember it is Castrol who started the Group III = synthetic campaign back then, and retaliate by not buying Castrol.
4) Many times I can get synthetic for their price (when comparing both on sale), so what's the point?
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Just to let the audience know. I have had the Castrol Synblend GTX in my Nissan for over 3,000 miles now, and it is running very smoothly. The engine is quiet, I would state even quieter than when I was using Mobil 1 w/Purolator PureOne Oil Filter. Now it has the Castrol Synblend GTX oil and the plain Purolator Oil Filter, and it seems, to me, to be running very quietly. Maybe it is my imagination, however, the engine runs very smoothly under my lead foot. I checked my oil yesterday, it is at the same level as the day the oil was put in the truck, a little darker, but not by much, still can see the marks through the oil on the dipstick.
I recently quit GTX after 20 years of loyalty due to three reasons:
1. Too expensive for a conventional
2. BP and their insulting "Beyond Petroleum" PR stunt. Please, like British Petroleum cares about the environment. Witness the gulf oil spill fiasco.
3. Don't wanna financially support the royal family.
Now, is Mobil the pinnacle of corporate respectability? Of course not, but is there a likable oil company?
1. Too expensive for a conventional
2. BP and their insulting "Beyond Petroleum" PR stunt. Please, like British Petroleum cares about the environment. Witness the gulf oil spill fiasco.
3. Don't wanna financially support the royal family.
Now, is Mobil the pinnacle of corporate respectability? Of course not, but is there a likable oil company?
I like the ones that sell gasoline at $2.50-2.70 a gallon in So Cal, which is none. I like the ones that have $20 rebate on 5-qt jug that costs no more than $21-22 to buy or FAR, which is none today.
I don't hate Castrol, but I don't use them for many years because of the price.
I don't hate Castrol, but I don't use them for many years because of the price.
I don't use GTX based on my experiences with it in the 80s.Different oil now I know.
Poor marketing and some of the worst commercials ever seen on tv may have something to do with it.
I wonder if the mostly White bottle packaging of GTX has a subliminal effect on people like a generic low rate white box product.
I wonder if the mostly White bottle packaging of GTX has a subliminal effect on people like a generic low rate white box product.
I used Castrol GTX in all my previous used cars, never had a problem or sludge, and some of these cars had really questionable maintenance history. I used Syntec in my Mazda, and when I switched to the all hyped up PP, I really didn't see a difference, both oils seem to be performing the same.
I truly don't understand how can GTX and most of Castrol line up be bashed so much on this site, yet other oils get a "free pass" without any substantial evidence
I truly don't understand how can GTX and most of Castrol line up be bashed so much on this site, yet other oils get a "free pass" without any substantial evidence
I have had the Castrol Synblend GTX in my Nissan for over 6,000 miles now, and it is running very smoothly. The engine is quiet, I would state even quieter than when I was using Mobil 1 w/Purolator PureOne Oil Filter. Castrol Synblend GTX and the plain Purolator Oil Filter, and it seems, to me, to be running very quietly. Maybe it is just my imagination. I checked my oil today, it is at the same level as the day the oil was put in the truck, a little darker, but I can still can see the marks through the oil on the dipstick. I would recommend Castrol products. (A really Big Switch for me!)
Any idea what grade was used - that NOACK for GTX is far below the one published on the PQI site for 5W30 GTX. I haved used GTX and I would use it again without reservation. But that NOACK looks to far too low for a dino oil. Their NOACK and pour point for PP are close to Pennzoil's published figures for their 10W30. But no way am I buying that GTX dino has a lower NOACK than PP when GTX has a lower HTHS and lower flash point as well. It doesn't add up.
Edit: because dino needs more viscosity improvers than syn to achieve a given multi-grade rating, is why I'm saying it doesn't add up. PP uses better base stocks and needs fewer viscosity improvers, which helps translate into its good NOACK. That figure for GTX is just out to lunch.
-Spyder
Edit: because dino needs more viscosity improvers than syn to achieve a given multi-grade rating, is why I'm saying it doesn't add up. PP uses better base stocks and needs fewer viscosity improvers, which helps translate into its good NOACK. That figure for GTX is just out to lunch.
-Spyder
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I have used GTX many times and have a jug of Syntec for some future OC, so I like Castrol, but stating its the "best" may be slightly controversial here
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well I am already trusted castrol syntec. I will be using castrol syntec on my 2010 honda pilot in a few months.
my brother have 08 4runner, my roommate have 09 matrix. both running mobil 1 synthetic. I am not happy with the product. the oil is black at 5,000 miles.. those are 95% highway miles.
So I will have them switch to castrol syntec.
my brother have 08 4runner, my roommate have 09 matrix. both running mobil 1 synthetic. I am not happy with the product. the oil is black at 5,000 miles.. those are 95% highway miles.
So I will have them switch to castrol syntec.
Originally Posted By: Cipriano
I recently quit GTX after 20 years of loyalty due to three reasons:
1. Too expensive for a conventional
2. BP and their insulting "Beyond Petroleum" PR stunt. Please, like British Petroleum cares about the environment. Witness the gulf oil spill fiasco.
3. Don't wanna financially support the royal family.
Now, is Mobil the pinnacle of corporate respectability? Of course not, but is there a likable oil company?
Yeah... When the whole BP gulf fiasco opened my eyes to they way they do business, I consciously cannot buy another BP product. Unfortunately, many people bad-mouth a company (and rightly so) but then go out and purchase their products.
Mobil is the same way. They screwed 1,000's of people in Alaska and they are still feeling the effects of that shortsightedness. BP has done far worse in my eyes. Do they make a good oil? Yeah.
Is it worth me buying? Nope.
I recently quit GTX after 20 years of loyalty due to three reasons:
1. Too expensive for a conventional
2. BP and their insulting "Beyond Petroleum" PR stunt. Please, like British Petroleum cares about the environment. Witness the gulf oil spill fiasco.
3. Don't wanna financially support the royal family.
Now, is Mobil the pinnacle of corporate respectability? Of course not, but is there a likable oil company?
Yeah... When the whole BP gulf fiasco opened my eyes to they way they do business, I consciously cannot buy another BP product. Unfortunately, many people bad-mouth a company (and rightly so) but then go out and purchase their products.
Mobil is the same way. They screwed 1,000's of people in Alaska and they are still feeling the effects of that shortsightedness. BP has done far worse in my eyes. Do they make a good oil? Yeah.
Is it worth me buying? Nope.
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Originally Posted By: moto94536
my brother have 08 4runner, my roommate have 09 matrix. both running mobil 1 synthetic. I am not happy with the product. the oil is black at 5,000 miles.. those are 95% highway miles.
So I will have them switch to castrol syntec.
If the oil is black after a few thousand miles, that means it is doing its job of suspending contaminants. The color of drained oil in and of itself is not an accurate depiction of how it performs with respect to lubrication.
my brother have 08 4runner, my roommate have 09 matrix. both running mobil 1 synthetic. I am not happy with the product. the oil is black at 5,000 miles.. those are 95% highway miles.
So I will have them switch to castrol syntec.
If the oil is black after a few thousand miles, that means it is doing its job of suspending contaminants. The color of drained oil in and of itself is not an accurate depiction of how it performs with respect to lubrication.
Originally Posted By: moto94536
I have used castrol gtx, castrol syntec on my 2006 camry v6. It is very quiet.
Castrol may be unpopular, but it is the best oil you can find on the market.
Castrol is a great product, no doubt about it. But for their asking price its hard to want to buy their product. I dont even see why Syntec exists anymore if Edge costs $1.50 more for the 5qt. Seems like Id spend the extra buck fidy for much better oil. And GTX is waaaay to expensive and not any better than PYB or MC5K.
I have used castrol gtx, castrol syntec on my 2006 camry v6. It is very quiet.
Castrol may be unpopular, but it is the best oil you can find on the market.
Castrol is a great product, no doubt about it. But for their asking price its hard to want to buy their product. I dont even see why Syntec exists anymore if Edge costs $1.50 more for the 5qt. Seems like Id spend the extra buck fidy for much better oil. And GTX is waaaay to expensive and not any better than PYB or MC5K.
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