Kreen Update

[Letter_K]

Originally Posted By: Vikas
Given that I have issues with my lawnmower and no complaints about the vehicles, I did not want to unnecessarily stock up on strong cleaner which could either eat through its own container or evaporate over period of few years. Shipping is high but there is not much on can do about that.

I am assuming the real instructions are on the can because there are NONE on the Kano Labs website (which was designed and implemented in 1950; I bet you did not know they had web sites in fifties

- Vikas

Yes, the 50's vibe. I'm guessing it is a marketing gimmick, much like the "Sales to Industrial Customer's only." I'm sure they would like large industirial orders only, but you can put anything in the company name and I'm sure they'll take your money.

IIRC, the instructions are on the container. They also refer to Kreen as a "motor tonic." Wonder if they will offer a hair tonic in the future. I don't have a bottle in front of me, but they do call it a derivative of Kroil formulated to engine cleaning. They also says something about a "four-way or four-featured product" on the can. Can't remember the exact words.

Oh, I did get the 4 quart deal and the dispenser is a chemistry dispenser or if you have been to a workplace with an eye wash station it looks like that type of bottle with a cap for storage and a removable dispenser cap. IIRC, it has markings for measurement too.

 

[Vikas]

Originally Posted By: electrolover
dont waist kreen in your gas. you will regret it when your all out and have to order more


If I like it that much, I will go "Trav" on them and order the 55 gallon drum

- Vikas

 

[PontiacFan]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8

These are amazing results, WAYYYYY better than autoRX. I used that for 3 complete cycles and it didn't do what Kreen did in one day.


I believe you, then again I did read the thread that was called 3 AUTO-RX CYCLES DID NOT DO MUCH BUMMER.

 

[SteveSRT8]

2nd update re: unit B.

This unit has had excessive oil consumption since our 'shade tree' rebuild. We disassembled the motor down to the short block, replaced cam, chain, gears, pushrods, lifters. Heads were cleaned and reinstalled, rockers were all reusable.

It has run almost a whole week with NO OIL consumed! This is awesome, as it normally drinks a couple of quarts per week of use. Never smokes or drips a drop, just mysteriously used oil. For those of you who don't know this truck uses 4-500 dollars worth of gas a week!

If this continues I am absolutely amazed at Kreen. Wow.

 

[nomochevys]

I put about an ounce and a half a three and a half horse wore out briggs engine. It had fresh 30 weight oil in it. I ran it about 15 minutes trimming around and such. Anyway, the next time I started it there was no puff of blue smoke like normal. I was using it and the carb took a dump and I have not had time to rebuild it. This engine is 35 years old and has smoked when started for years. I would not have believed it if I didnt see it with my own eyes.

As soon as I can get it running again I will report back. Im still skeptical so we shall see but so far so good.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8

It has run almost a whole week with NO OIL consumed! This is awesome, as it normally drinks a couple of quarts per week of use.


Now, you have my full attention!

The only thing that makes me uneasy about putting Kreen in now in fresh oil as opposed to the end of interval is the Kreen's composition. According to the MSDS, it's loaded with alcohol, ketone (acetone), and ether. Similar ingredients are present in typical oil flush that is supposed to be used for 15 minutes while idling only. What's up with that?

Link to MSDS: http://www.kanolabs.com/msds/kreen_liquid.pdf

 

[ltslimjim]

^No doubting it's cleansing ability...I DO wonder the long-term affects of using Kreen on any rubber components.

Of course, cleaning dirty ring packs which aren't sealing properly may help with consumption. Of course, prolonged use(aside from a cleanup run or two), is another story.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Thinking outloud, this should be an ultimate piston soak. Even the base oil is naphthenic, just like MMO.

Either way, I'm orderings some.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
^No doubting it's cleansing ability...I DO wonder the long-term affects of using Kreen on any rubber components.

Of course, cleaning dirty ring packs which aren't sealing properly may help with consumption. Of course, prolonged use(aside from a cleanup run or two), is another story.


Good points Jim. I doubt you'll have any issues using Kreen once in a while. I think there are cases where people tend to over clean an engine, and that might pose a problem with Kreen, or any flush for that matter. Maybe calling the people at Kroil and asking about seal compatibility would eliminate the guessing. I know MMO has been tested safe with all seals and gaskets in engines, that came from tech quy over at Turtle Wax.

 

[electrolover]

kreen does play heck on the rubber glue in my filters but i dont have any leaks. you could always follow it up with maxlife to recondition the seals,

as far as running kreen the last part of an oci, i dont think it really matters because it burns off pretty fast

 

[ltslimjim]

Thanks for the responses dmp, and elec. Great points. I may follow up with the folks at Kroil, unless someone beats me to it.

 

[Trav]

I have used the product in some old 80 and 90's era engines with a lot of miles and had zero leaks occur after using it over a year ago.
I realize it has solvents but how they are blended and in what amounts they are present after being diluted in the oil may have a different effect than if they were to be used in their purest form.

Honestly i was apprehensive at first because there was so little info on this product but now after so many engines with zero negatives effects i feel quite comfortable using it.

 

[ltslimjim]

^Cool. Thanks for the re-assurances. If I want to try another cleanup on the Civic again later after a Valve Cover pull, then Kreen will be my next go at it.

 

[chiks]

Kreen? Is that the Asian say "Clean" ??? LOL...ROFL

But sure sounds like some good stuff.

 

[SteveSRT8]

It is. Changed the filters on both units today and they are quiet and happy. Most impressive results.

As I said earlier, this stuff isn't going to be around long in a hot climate. It simply HAS to boil off quickly in use.

 

[Vikas]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
It is. Changed the filters on both units today and they are quiet and happy. Most impressive results.

As I said earlier, this stuff isn't going to be around long in a hot climate. It simply HAS to boil off quickly in use.


Did you run full OCI interval? I take it that you put lots and lots of miles on them very quickly.

- Vikas

 

[SteveSRT8]

We run by the OLM here since 2004. The trucks usually run around 4000 road miles between changes, but there is tons of stationary operation at 1500-1700 rpm included.

Currently running Edge 5w-30 with a pure one. I ran the Kreen almost a whole week and then changed filters only, pre-filled with oil.

Still running quiet and sweet!

 

[Russell]

Ordered 2 quarts of Kreen yesterday via their website. Surpised when I was never told shipping costs nor got a confirmation e-mail although they did confirm that I placed the order after they accepted my credit card. CC not debited yet.

That said, I did send an e-mail to them this morning. No response yet. May call later today.

Has anyone else had a similar experience? Judging from their web site, they do not seem to be overly "retail" oriented?

 

[SteveSRT8]

I tried to order a gallon via web, got a phone cal telling me about Hazmat fees and such, recommended 4 quarts instead.

Customer service seemed good to me. Order arrived quickly.

 

[Russell]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I tried to order a gallon via web, got a phone cal telling me about Hazmat fees and such, recommended 4 quarts instead.

Customer service seemed good to me. Order arrived quickly.


Got a nice e-mail. all is in order.