kia engine issues...really serious or overinflated?

Sister in law had her engine replaced on a newi-sh Tucson. Had to wait almost 3 months and that was before 2020

I had three Hyundai when they were about 2-3 grand cheaper than the Domestic or Japanese marques.

I really liked my '95 Accent 3 door 5 speed. It was better than My Honda fit or Toyota Yaris in reliabilty and it was a decent driver. Stone reliable.

The 96 elantra was a good driver but the engine didn't like me wailing on it. Traded it before I lunched it.

The 1998 Sonata 4 cyl 5 speed was great too - quiet, smooth comfortable. Like a Buick.

Like a dope I brought it toothe dealer for the free oil change and asked to have the manual trans fluid drained and refilled. What could go wrong? Well they likely put GL5 in there and the thing wouldn't shift.
Brought it back They said there was a TSB requiring a transmission rebuild (?!)

So they gave me a loaner and about 2 weeks later got the car back in garbage condition.
bolts stripped and missing the some transaxle fasteners powertrain hit the hood on the way out of the dealer lot.
Trans making whirring and whining noise. I fixed the powertrain bolts and traded THAT diaster away for a new base "Model T like" ranger 2.5 MT w/t with its own issues. Black with gray interior and black rubber floor.

Exhaust fell of on the way home. ( thank you Edison, NJ workers!)
That truck also needed a DS replaced it had DS vibration on the highway.

Put one 700lb moderate load in there for a dump run and it sagged the rear spring permanantly !
Should have fixed an kept that though
 
How many of Hyundai/Kia engine problem are due to the long warranty (100,00/10 yr. is it?) and owners beating/neglecting them to death?
I think you could be onto something there. The general public doesn't take very good care of their cars as it is. I could definitely see people translating the warranty into " I don't have to maintain this car at all for 100k miles".
 
How many of Hyundai/Kia engine problem are due to the long warranty (100,00/10 yr. is it?) and owners beating/neglecting them to death?
I think you could be onto something there. The general public doesn't take very good care of their cars as it is. I could definitely see people translating the warranty into " I don't have to maintain this car at all for 100k miles".
I would never personally purchase a used privately-owned Hyundai or Kia. Not counting rentals, most of them on the lots are repos. If an owner isn't going to pay for it they certainly aren't going take care of it, and they don't.
 
I'm driving a 2013 Soul (2.0) with 162k miles on it. Owned many brands over more than 40 yrs of driving. It's been a great car. When it dies I'll likely not even look at anything else and just buy another one. Like everything, sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you don't. Put me in the yes buy it list.
 
I think you could be onto something there. The general public doesn't take very good care of their cars as it is. I could definitely see people translating the warranty into " I don't have to maintain this car at all for 100k miles".
You don't follow the book - and many times a "dealer mandated" severe service schedule that PT warranty will be toast.

But I saw the big 4 bangers failing from major manufacturers also. How about the disintegrating head bolts on the Camry and Rav 4 four cylinders? Hyundai and Subaru engines failing due to crank drills not being brushed and flushed of machining. grinding and polishing debris.
The now ubiquitous automated engine building allows "making junk at the speed of light" if all the T's are not crossed.
 
You don't follow the book - and many times a "dealer mandated" severe service schedule that PT warranty will be toast.

But I saw the big 4 bangers failing from major manufacturers also. How about the disintegrating head bolts on the Camry and Rav 4 four cylinders? Hyundai and Subaru engines failing due to crank drills not being brushed and flushed of machining. grinding and polishing debris.
The now ubiquitous automated engine building allows "making junk at the speed of light" if all the T's are not crossed.
Even though H-K is the world's third biggest automaker behind Toyota and Volkswagan, it will never be a major manufacturer? I'm old enough to remember WWII vets complaining about Jap trash as they re-fought Guadacanal and vowed never to set butt in a Japanese car. HyunKia's problems are bad dealers and bad customers, not too crazy about that KiaKidz business either. Their dealers try to gig customers for more than the high markup quoted by the manufacturer to make things right. Still, I've owned four Kias (counting a Ford Festiva) and a Hyundai with no real problems.
 
You don't follow the book - and many times a "dealer mandated" severe service schedule that PT warranty will be toast.

But I saw the big 4 bangers failing from major manufacturers also. How about the disintegrating head bolts on the Camry and Rav 4 four cylinders? Hyundai and Subaru engines failing due to crank drills not being brushed and flushed of machining. grinding and polishing debris.
The now ubiquitous automated engine building allows "making junk at the speed of light" if all the T's are not crossed.
What the look at are OCI. And they don't always. If you change at the maximum interval you should be fine.
 
Even though H-K is the world's third biggest automaker behind Toyota and Volkswagan, it will never be a major manufacturer? I'm old enough to remember WWII vets complaining about Jap trash as they re-fought Guadacanal and vowed never to set butt in a Japanese car. HyunKia's problems are bad dealers and bad customers, not too crazy about that KiaKidz business either. Their dealers try to gig customers for more than the high markup quoted by the manufacturer to make things right. Still, I've owned four Kias (counting a Ford Festiva) and a Hyundai with no real problems.
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2020 Kia Soul (2.0L) had an engine replacement sometime before 16,000 kms. Sold it. 2022 Kia Soul (2.0L) bought brand new and it just needed a new short block at 90,000 kms just before the warranty expired. Starting consuming oil. Cylinder scoring found. Always synthetic 0w20 (well 5w20 for the first few before Kia changed the spec).
 
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2020 Kia Soul (2.0L) had an engine replacement sometime before 16,000 kms. Sold it. 2022 Kia Soul (2.0L) bought brand new and it just needed a new short block at 90,000 kms just before the warranty expired. Starting consuming oil. Cylinder scoring found. Always synthetic 0w20 (well 5w20 for the first few before Kia changed the spec).

Will you buy a third one?
 
I may have already replied on this thread, not sure...too long to look.

BOught a brand new 2014 KIA Rio. Great car overall. Maintenance done every 5K, almost on the dot. MEticulously maintained.

Started burning oil at around 100K. Car still runs at 160K, but burns a lot of oil.

Bought a used Tucson (2019) that had 33K on it. Had all maintenance records. Burned probably 1/2 a quart in 3,000 miles.

Ditched it for a new Mazda CX-5.

My son has a Santa Fe with the 2.4 engine (2019 also.) No issues. Oil level rock solid. Also had a 2012 Santa Fe, my son rolled it at 160K, rock solid on oil level in that as well.

Anyway, my experience. As of now, I won't buy another Hyundai / KIA.
 
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