It's impossible to enjoy driving these days.

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Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Loogie, I'm sorry, even as an Admin here, there's no other way to say it -- you are a mow-ron.

He's a passive-aggressive -- ummmm -- "orifice"...


Doesn't calling another member a moron and an orifice violate the code of conduct at BITOG? Specifically rule 5 that states "Each member agrees that he or she shall not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing....."
 
Originally Posted By: dhise
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: dhise
Well then run for office and fix the system! I will fully endorse any candidate that will punish speeders mercilessly and protect the sane slower law abiding drivers out there.
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I can't help but notice you specify sanity alongside driving slowly, while you left speeding completely unqualified. Was this on purpose, or do you really not see a difference between driving quickly and insanity?


as the old hippies used to say,speed kills.



Thanks.
 
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Alas, the hippies were wrong. DIFFERENCE in speed is what kills. If the mass of traffic is averaging 70 mph, the most dangerous vehicle on the road is the one that differs the most from the average, whether it's doing 55 or 85.


The hippies were right except they weren't talking about velocity.


You durn kids
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Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Alas, the hippies were wrong. DIFFERENCE in speed is what kills. If the mass of traffic is averaging 70 mph, the most dangerous vehicle on the road is the one that differs the most from the average, whether it's doing 55 or 85.


The hippies were right except they weren't talking about velocity.


You durn kids
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Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
You have to understand that most large company trucks these days are governed under 65 mph; some at 61 mph, to save fuel. That's why a truck governed at say, 64 mph, will pass another truck at 62 mph and it takes forever.

This is another thing that used to drive me up the wall; I though these guys were doing this stuff on purpose as a game or something until I realized how slow these trucks are governed. If a guy has 11 hours to drive his 64 mph truck, you better believe he's going to pass another truck governed at 62 mph regardless of how long it takes or how much it [censored] off us mere "4 wheelers" as the truckers say.

I just hang back until the left lane is clear and proceed on my marry way.

They don't give a turd about us 4 wheelers (which is painfully obvious), and I don't give a turd about their goveners or their schedules. So many times they swing over in the left lane to pass right in front of a car that is coming up from behind to overtake the truck, when all the trucker had to do is wait 5 seconds to let the car pass him before he makes his pass. This is just pure rudeness on the trucker's part. They may have cramped schedules, but they don't have to be a-holes about it.

I have to agree with grampi. Truckers aren't the only people on the road who have a schedule to keep.
 
Originally Posted By: dhise
A cousin of mine used to drive for Schneider and those rigs were governed at 55mph. He drove through every state in the lower 48 at a perfectly safe 55mph. If those trucks had been causing accidents everywhere you bet they would have been sued big time!



I'm from the city where Schneider is located. There are their orange trucks EVERYWHERE. I don't know when your cousin drove for them, but they have not been governed at 55 for a long time if they ever were. Maybe he drove for them when the feds mandated interstate speed at 55.

And besides, a semi driving slower is much less of a hazard than an Aveo driving 55 simply because you can literally see it from miles away and judge its speed much easier.
 
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl

I'm from the city where Schneider is located. There are their orange trucks EVERYWHERE. I don't know when your cousin drove for them, but they have not been governed at 55 for a long time if they ever were. Maybe he drove for them when the feds mandated interstate speed at 55.

And besides, a semi driving slower is much less of a hazard than an Aveo driving 55 simply because you can literally see it from miles away and judge its speed much easier.


They were definitely governed when he drove for them I'm guessing 10-15 years ago. Most interstate speed limits were 70 then. He would tell me that if you saw one going faster then it was an independent trucker hauling the load and not a Schneider driver.
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Loogie, I'm sorry, even as an Admin here, there's no other way to say it -- you are a mow-ron.

He's a passive-aggressive -- ummmm -- "orifice"...


Doesn't calling another member a moron and an orifice violate the code of conduct at BITOG? Specifically rule 5 that states "Each member agrees that he or she shall not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing....."


Objection sustained...
 
Ok, got another one. This is the moron that won't pass. Yea, that's right. You're in the right lane, not going fast enough for them, so they change lanes and get in the left lane and..never pass, preferring instead to hang out in your blind spot. Since I was going faster than some other cars in the right lane, I signaled and moved over to pass the slower cars when I got to them. Then the moron would sometimes get real close while I was passing, as though I weren't going fast enough (although I was indeed going the same speed I was when they decided they didn't want to pass me?!?) Then I moved back into the right lane where this moron continued to drive in the left lane never passing. What stopped that was another moron#2 in the left lane who was going slower than I was, so I passed that moron#2 on the right and the other moron#1 just stayed behind.
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
Ok, got another one. This is the moron that won't pass. Yea, that's right. You're in the right lane, not going fast enough for them, so they change lanes and get in the left lane and..never pass, preferring instead to hang out in your blind spot. Since I was going faster than some other cars in the right lane, I signaled and moved over to pass the slower cars when I got to them. Then the moron would sometimes get real close while I was passing, as though I weren't going fast enough (although I was indeed going the same speed I was when they decided they didn't want to pass me?!?) Then I moved back into the right lane where this moron continued to drive in the left lane never passing. What stopped that was another moron#2 in the left lane who was going slower than I was, so I passed that moron#2 on the right and the other moron#1 just stayed behind.

I see this all the time with the Vic. Ive had a couple cars kinda creep up then decide Im not a cop and speed off. The racing stickers help with that I think.
 
Lead, follow, or get out of the way. If you're going to play road games, make them passive aggressive in nature. Pretend that you're a "Q-tip" while masking the heart of a shrewd and cunning stealth road warrior.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.



Definitely words to live by.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Lead, follow, or get out of the way. If you're going to play road games, make them passive aggressive in nature. Pretend that you're a "Q-tip" while masking the heart of a shrewd and cunning stealth road warrior.


Have you been reading Sun Tzu again?
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
Ok, got another one. This is the moron that won't pass. Yea, that's right. You're in the right lane, not going fast enough for them, so they change lanes and get in the left lane and..never pass, preferring instead to hang out in your blind spot. Since I was going faster than some other cars in the right lane, I signaled and moved over to pass the slower cars when I got to them. Then the moron would sometimes get real close while I was passing, as though I weren't going fast enough (although I was indeed going the same speed I was when they decided they didn't want to pass me?!?) Then I moved back into the right lane where this moron continued to drive in the left lane never passing. What stopped that was another moron#2 in the left lane who was going slower than I was, so I passed that moron#2 on the right and the other moron#1 just stayed behind.


I also don't like when people pass me, pull into the right lane in front of me, then slow down so then I have to pass them. I don't understand why so many people don't use their crusie controls.
 
Traveling on the 401 through Ontario, I saw an OPP in my rear view mirror. I thought I was nailed for speeding at 120 km/hr. Instead, he came up to a guy way ahead camped in the left lane, and sat 15 feet from his rear bumper, until the driver woke up and got the message that he better move over. Subtle, but effective policing.
 
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws

I see this all the time with the Vic. Ive had a couple cars kinda creep up then decide Im not a cop and speed off. The racing stickers help with that I think.


I was driving the Saab 93, but I did have a laptop in the driver's seat. Maybe they thought it was an unmarked car.
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws

I see this all the time with the Vic. Ive had a couple cars kinda creep up then decide Im not a cop and speed off. The racing stickers help with that I think.


I was driving the Saab 93, but I did have a laptop in the driver's seat. Maybe they thought it was an unmarked car.


You never what's a cop car these days. Indiana drives Mustang's and some other places use SUVs.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Traveling on the 401 through Ontario, I saw an OPP in my rear view mirror. I thought I was nailed for speeding at 120 km/hr. Instead, he came up to a guy way ahead camped in the left lane, and sat 15 feet from his rear bumper, until the driver woke up and got the message that he better move over. Subtle, but effective policing.


I saw a similar, greatly amusing episode a couple years ago. I was driving down I-10 one night, a two-lane stretch in Mississippi. An 18-wheeler was camped out in the left lane doing the limit, and would not move over. Most traffic was spilling around it on the right; technically improper, but necessary under the circumstances... Along comes a white, unmarked, but obviously LEO CVPI, and he saddles in behind said offending truck. He does the flash to pass thing with his brights a couple times. Trucking genius not only refuses to move over, but actually taps his brakes, and then stays right where he is. Cop, who must have been in a really good mood, declines to turn on the blue lights, but does light up the left side of the truck with the A-pillar search light (whatever you call that thing). Oddly enough, the trucker moved right over. Funny how such things work.
 
What about this one: You're driving along on a 4 lane divided highway in the right lane. You come up to a slower car and pass it in the left lane, then move back over to the right lane and continue on your happy way. You're driving along 2 minutes later and glance in your mirror and see the dip [censored] who you just passes, coming up on you, only to pass you in the left lane. He moves over and gets a good number of car lengths ahead of you. 2 minutes later, you, still doing THE EXACT same speed, are now riding up his [censored] because he can't maintain the same speed, so you pass him. Repeat this same thing over and over and over and over and over - I had some turd do this to me a few years back for nearly 100 miles. I was about to pit him out and send him off into the median for crying out loud! Didn't seem like he had cruise control, or he just flat out couldn't drive very well at all. No situational awareness what so ever.
 
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