I hate to bring it up but technically (at least the way I was taught) you are only supposed to pull into the left lane to pass if you can clear it before being overtaken by faster moving traffic.
It's impossible to enjoy driving these days.
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I was just thinking about this subject yesterday. A few years back, the rebel in me decided not to participate in the crazy circus that happens on our freeways. Everyone driving as fast as they can, zig zagging through the lanes of traffic. Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations because you create an acordian effect behind you) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations because you create an acordian effect behind you) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
I agree totally dhise. I've come to do the save thing. I arive rested and happy and not upset.
Anyone one hits me? I've got a darn good lawyer, and in case of road rage I have a cell phone and a .45 by my side.
Anyone one hits me? I've got a darn good lawyer, and in case of road rage I have a cell phone and a .45 by my side.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
Well thats your opinion. Got any facts to back it up.
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
Well thats your opinion. Got any facts to back it up.
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Anyone one hits me? I've got a darn good lawyer, and in case of road rage I have a cell phone and a .45 by my side.
If you get hit by someone merging onto the highway, for example, and you are going 50 in a 65 you can expect to get a ticket yourself for going too slow once the cops arrive to take the police report for the accident. If you shoot someone who has road rage but isn't physically violent toward you, expect to go to jail for a long time.
Anyone one hits me? I've got a darn good lawyer, and in case of road rage I have a cell phone and a .45 by my side.
If you get hit by someone merging onto the highway, for example, and you are going 50 in a 65 you can expect to get a ticket yourself for going too slow once the cops arrive to take the police report for the accident. If you shoot someone who has road rage but isn't physically violent toward you, expect to go to jail for a long time.
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Well thats your opinion. Got any facts to back it up.
Just common sense. Someone going 10 mph over the posted speed limit who maneuvers between cars going the speed limit doesn't really affect other cars. The safety hazard they create is mostly to themselves and their passengers.
Someone going 10 mph under the posted limit causes a huge line of cars to pile up behind them on single lane roads, making people who approach that line of cars have to slam on their brakes because of the person in the front of said line of cars. Around where I live this creates crashes all the time on county highways. On four lane roads where there is a passing lane each direction exceptionally slow drivers are still a hazard because merging traffic and traffic going the speed limit in the same lane have to account for the slow car, usually quickly because the "catch up time" is short due to the slow driver's reduced speed.
I usually go between the posted limit and 5 mph over on highways. But it is just common sense exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers.
Well thats your opinion. Got any facts to back it up.
Just common sense. Someone going 10 mph over the posted speed limit who maneuvers between cars going the speed limit doesn't really affect other cars. The safety hazard they create is mostly to themselves and their passengers.
Someone going 10 mph under the posted limit causes a huge line of cars to pile up behind them on single lane roads, making people who approach that line of cars have to slam on their brakes because of the person in the front of said line of cars. Around where I live this creates crashes all the time on county highways. On four lane roads where there is a passing lane each direction exceptionally slow drivers are still a hazard because merging traffic and traffic going the speed limit in the same lane have to account for the slow car, usually quickly because the "catch up time" is short due to the slow driver's reduced speed.
I usually go between the posted limit and 5 mph over on highways. But it is just common sense exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers.
Originally Posted By: Popinski
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
As for elderly drivers... if they don't have the capacity to drive any more they shouldn't be on the road. That may not be politically correct and may not make people "feel good", but if someone is a safety hazard to other drivers they shouldn't be driving. After age 72 or so the elderly should have to renew their license at least every other year, IMO.
Print what you typed...read it when you turn over 70.... It's like little kids who make fun of adults...they will pay the price as well.
Like another guy said, chill. If the elderly can still pass the test, they get to drive. If not, they don't. The average life expectancy of men is 76 years. Mental and physical health can deteriorate very quickly after age 70. It is not unreasonable from a public safety perspective to propose people to have to renew their license every two years starting at age 72.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
As for elderly drivers... if they don't have the capacity to drive any more they shouldn't be on the road. That may not be politically correct and may not make people "feel good", but if someone is a safety hazard to other drivers they shouldn't be driving. After age 72 or so the elderly should have to renew their license at least every other year, IMO.
Print what you typed...read it when you turn over 70.... It's like little kids who make fun of adults...they will pay the price as well.
Like another guy said, chill. If the elderly can still pass the test, they get to drive. If not, they don't. The average life expectancy of men is 76 years. Mental and physical health can deteriorate very quickly after age 70. It is not unreasonable from a public safety perspective to propose people to have to renew their license every two years starting at age 72.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations because you create an acordian effect behind you) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
I have to say that I totally disagree with this. It is the impatient driver who thinks they own the road in too big a hurry to get anywhere who are the real danger here. I don't see too many semi trucks getting rear ended around here. Quite a few of them are driving slower these days as well.
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations because you create an acordian effect behind you) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
I have to say that I totally disagree with this. It is the impatient driver who thinks they own the road in too big a hurry to get anywhere who are the real danger here. I don't see too many semi trucks getting rear ended around here. Quite a few of them are driving slower these days as well.
Originally Posted By: dhise
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations because you create an acordian effect behind you) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
I have to say that I totally disagree with this. It is the impatient driver who thinks they own the road in too big a hurry to get anywhere who are the real danger here. I don't see too many semi trucks getting rear ended around here. Quite a few of them are driving slower these days as well.
That's exactly my thought as well, also, if the faster driver is going so much faster then the slower guy, what the heck is he doing in the right lane honking at the slow guy? Move left and pass.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: dhise
Now I'm the guy happily putzing along in the right hand lane doing 55-60mph. Do people get upset and tailgate and buzz around me? Sure, they were the same one doing that when I was driving 70mph so let em get mad, I don't care anymore. In the long run I am much safer now driving slow.
You may THINK you're safer, but you are causing the roads to be unsafe for others who are traveling near the posted presumably 65 or 70 mph speed limit.
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations because you create an acordian effect behind you) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
I have to say that I totally disagree with this. It is the impatient driver who thinks they own the road in too big a hurry to get anywhere who are the real danger here. I don't see too many semi trucks getting rear ended around here. Quite a few of them are driving slower these days as well.
That's exactly my thought as well, also, if the faster driver is going so much faster then the slower guy, what the heck is he doing in the right lane honking at the slow guy? Move left and pass.
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Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
Well thats your opinion. Got any facts to back it up.
It's true. It causes most drivers to change lanes in order to pass the slowpoke. This act of changing lanes together with the speed differential of adjacent cars can result in a crash if there is any miscalculation. This is horribly true if the slowpoke is in the fast lane. It's safer to drive closer to the speed of the surrounding traffic.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Going 10 or 15 mph below the posted limit is just as unsafe (actually worse in most situations) as going 10 or 15 mph over the posted speed limit.
Well thats your opinion. Got any facts to back it up.
It's true. It causes most drivers to change lanes in order to pass the slowpoke. This act of changing lanes together with the speed differential of adjacent cars can result in a crash if there is any miscalculation. This is horribly true if the slowpoke is in the fast lane. It's safer to drive closer to the speed of the surrounding traffic.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Just common sense. Someone going 10 mph over the posted speed limit who maneuvers between cars going the speed limit doesn't really affect other cars. The safety hazard they create is mostly to themselves and their passengers.
Someone going 10 mph under the posted limit causes a huge line of cars to pile up behind them on single lane roads, making people who approach that line of cars have to slam on their brakes because of the person in the front of said line of cars. Around where I live this creates crashes all the time on county highways. On four lane roads where there is a passing lane each direction exceptionally slow drivers are still a hazard because merging traffic and traffic going the speed limit in the same lane have to account for the slow car, usually quickly because the "catch up time" is short due to the slow driver's reduced speed.
I usually go between the posted limit and 5 mph over on highways. But it is just common sense exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers.
I can see where you're coming from, but I think you are oversimplifying and exaggerating.
Speeding poses no risk to other cars ONLY if there are no other cars on the road. There is no getting around the fact that your stopping distance goes up, your car's ability to swerve safely goes down (unless you're driving a car with lots of aerodynamic downforce), and the speed with which you can react stays the same while the time you have to react goes down. If you are creating such conditions for yourself while other people are on the road, your reduced ability to prevent an accident or to cope with an emergency could have an effect on others. That's not necessarily creating a risk per se, but it is reducing a safety margin by definition.
Yes, driving under the speed limit can slow traffic down. Yes, that can be insanely frustrating. That doesn't mean it's a hazard. If they're in the right lane, what's the big deal? I don't know about you but I fully expect right lane traffic to be moving slowly, just as I expect left lane traffic to be moving quickly. The "slamming on the brakes" thing is only an issue if the slow car appears out of nowhere, which I find hard to imagine.
It's not even slightly common sense that exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers. The laughable driver training in this country means that most people aren't even truly qualified to drive the speed limit, let alone faster. Most people do not have cars that are suitable to run at those speeds. Most people have no idea how to maintain their cars at all, let alone how to keep them in good shape to go fast. Most highways are neither built nor maintained well enough to be suitable for high speeds.
Now, if you want to say that YOU are less of a hazard while driving fast than SOMEONE ELSE is while driving slowly, that's another story. Believe me, I know what it's like to have such an opinion. You just have to be careful with your generalizations.
Just common sense. Someone going 10 mph over the posted speed limit who maneuvers between cars going the speed limit doesn't really affect other cars. The safety hazard they create is mostly to themselves and their passengers.
Someone going 10 mph under the posted limit causes a huge line of cars to pile up behind them on single lane roads, making people who approach that line of cars have to slam on their brakes because of the person in the front of said line of cars. Around where I live this creates crashes all the time on county highways. On four lane roads where there is a passing lane each direction exceptionally slow drivers are still a hazard because merging traffic and traffic going the speed limit in the same lane have to account for the slow car, usually quickly because the "catch up time" is short due to the slow driver's reduced speed.
I usually go between the posted limit and 5 mph over on highways. But it is just common sense exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers.
I can see where you're coming from, but I think you are oversimplifying and exaggerating.
Speeding poses no risk to other cars ONLY if there are no other cars on the road. There is no getting around the fact that your stopping distance goes up, your car's ability to swerve safely goes down (unless you're driving a car with lots of aerodynamic downforce), and the speed with which you can react stays the same while the time you have to react goes down. If you are creating such conditions for yourself while other people are on the road, your reduced ability to prevent an accident or to cope with an emergency could have an effect on others. That's not necessarily creating a risk per se, but it is reducing a safety margin by definition.
Yes, driving under the speed limit can slow traffic down. Yes, that can be insanely frustrating. That doesn't mean it's a hazard. If they're in the right lane, what's the big deal? I don't know about you but I fully expect right lane traffic to be moving slowly, just as I expect left lane traffic to be moving quickly. The "slamming on the brakes" thing is only an issue if the slow car appears out of nowhere, which I find hard to imagine.
It's not even slightly common sense that exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers. The laughable driver training in this country means that most people aren't even truly qualified to drive the speed limit, let alone faster. Most people do not have cars that are suitable to run at those speeds. Most people have no idea how to maintain their cars at all, let alone how to keep them in good shape to go fast. Most highways are neither built nor maintained well enough to be suitable for high speeds.
Now, if you want to say that YOU are less of a hazard while driving fast than SOMEONE ELSE is while driving slowly, that's another story. Believe me, I know what it's like to have such an opinion. You just have to be careful with your generalizations.
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If you get hit by someone merging onto the highway, for example, and you are going 50 in a 65 you can expect to get a ticket yourself for going too slow once the cops arrive to take the police report for the accident.
What? Do you even know the basic traffic code? Anyone merging into the highway must yield traffic that is already on the highway, there is no mention of the speed that they have to be going, it's not up to the driver on the highway to match the speed of the driver that is merging, it's the other way around.
If you get hit by someone merging onto the highway, for example, and you are going 50 in a 65 you can expect to get a ticket yourself for going too slow once the cops arrive to take the police report for the accident.
What? Do you even know the basic traffic code? Anyone merging into the highway must yield traffic that is already on the highway, there is no mention of the speed that they have to be going, it's not up to the driver on the highway to match the speed of the driver that is merging, it's the other way around.
Originally Posted By: Kestas
It's true. It causes most drivers to change lanes in order to pass the slowpoke. This act of changing lanes together with the speed differential of adjacent cars can result in a crash if there is any miscalculation. This is horribly true if the slowpoke is in the fast lane. It's safer to drive closer to the speed of the surrounding traffic.
Exactly.
Exceptionally fast drivers are dangers to themselves. Exceptionally slow drivers are dangers to everyone else.
If someone is going 20 mph over the speed limit and crashes, they deserve it. If someone is going 15 mph under the speed limit and causes someone else going near the speed limit to crash because of the risks described in this thread by myself and Kestas, it is a tragedy that should be on their (the slow driver's) conscience for the rest of their life.
It's true. It causes most drivers to change lanes in order to pass the slowpoke. This act of changing lanes together with the speed differential of adjacent cars can result in a crash if there is any miscalculation. This is horribly true if the slowpoke is in the fast lane. It's safer to drive closer to the speed of the surrounding traffic.
Exactly.
Exceptionally fast drivers are dangers to themselves. Exceptionally slow drivers are dangers to everyone else.
If someone is going 20 mph over the speed limit and crashes, they deserve it. If someone is going 15 mph under the speed limit and causes someone else going near the speed limit to crash because of the risks described in this thread by myself and Kestas, it is a tragedy that should be on their (the slow driver's) conscience for the rest of their life.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Speeding poses no risk to other cars ONLY if there are no other cars on the road. There is no getting around the fact that your stopping distance goes up, your car's ability to swerve safely goes down (unless you're driving a car with lots of aerodynamic downforce), and the speed with which you can react stays the same while the time you have to react goes down. If you are creating such conditions for yourself while other people are on the road, your reduced ability to prevent an accident or to cope with an emergency could have an effect on others. That's not necessarily creating a risk per se, but it is reducing a safety margin by definition.
Yes, driving under the speed limit can slow traffic down. Yes, that can be insanely frustrating. That doesn't mean it's a hazard. If they're in the right lane, what's the big deal? I don't know about you but I fully expect right lane traffic to be moving slowly, just as I expect left lane traffic to be moving quickly. The "slamming on the brakes" thing is only an issue if the slow car appears out of nowhere, which I find hard to imagine.
It's not even slightly common sense that exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers. The laughable driver training in this country means that most people aren't even truly qualified to drive the speed limit, let alone faster. Most people do not have cars that are suitable to run at those speeds. Most people have no idea how to maintain their cars at all, let alone how to keep them in good shape to go fast. Most highways are neither built nor maintained well enough to be suitable for high speeds.
I see what you are saying a bit. Yes, poorly maintained cars are less safe, but this is regardless of speed. More speed increases stopping distance, that is true.
But on the interstate if you are driving UP on vehicles, and passing them even if you are weaving in and out of traffic, the only way you are a DANGER to other drivers is if you actually hit them. You are not changing THEIR driving behavior.
If you are going very slow for the road, speed limit, conditions, etc., you are changing OTHER driver's behavior. This is a BIG danger for the reasons I and Kestas have pointed out.
Also, with two lane roads (one lane each direction) slow drivers are yet an even bigger hazard. Around here there are many two lane roads that have relatively heavy traffic going into and out of the city (the city is a "hub and spoke" design). People regularly pull out into the roads (often when there is not adequate room to in the first place), then will go 35-40 in a 55. This causes a huge line of cars to back up. When you run up on a huge line of cars like this, it happens exceptionally fast because it isn't until you are nearly up on the last car in the line that you notice just how slow the line of cars is moving. I'd estimate this scenario causes at least a dozen accidents around here every month. Some of them are fatal.
On two lane roads exceptionally fast drivers need to slow down for slower drivers until there isn't traffic coming from the other direction so they can pass. This creates a safety concern if they don't judge oncoming traffic correctly, but it isn't a direct result of going too fast. It is a result of impatience/poor perception in the passing process. With most two lane roads it is unsafe to go much more than 55 or 60 anyway because of the road designs themselves and it is rare to have issues (at least around here) with exceptionally fast drivers on these types of roads.
Speeding poses no risk to other cars ONLY if there are no other cars on the road. There is no getting around the fact that your stopping distance goes up, your car's ability to swerve safely goes down (unless you're driving a car with lots of aerodynamic downforce), and the speed with which you can react stays the same while the time you have to react goes down. If you are creating such conditions for yourself while other people are on the road, your reduced ability to prevent an accident or to cope with an emergency could have an effect on others. That's not necessarily creating a risk per se, but it is reducing a safety margin by definition.
Yes, driving under the speed limit can slow traffic down. Yes, that can be insanely frustrating. That doesn't mean it's a hazard. If they're in the right lane, what's the big deal? I don't know about you but I fully expect right lane traffic to be moving slowly, just as I expect left lane traffic to be moving quickly. The "slamming on the brakes" thing is only an issue if the slow car appears out of nowhere, which I find hard to imagine.
It's not even slightly common sense that exceptionally fast drivers are less of a hazard than exceptionally slow drivers. The laughable driver training in this country means that most people aren't even truly qualified to drive the speed limit, let alone faster. Most people do not have cars that are suitable to run at those speeds. Most people have no idea how to maintain their cars at all, let alone how to keep them in good shape to go fast. Most highways are neither built nor maintained well enough to be suitable for high speeds.
I see what you are saying a bit. Yes, poorly maintained cars are less safe, but this is regardless of speed. More speed increases stopping distance, that is true.
But on the interstate if you are driving UP on vehicles, and passing them even if you are weaving in and out of traffic, the only way you are a DANGER to other drivers is if you actually hit them. You are not changing THEIR driving behavior.
If you are going very slow for the road, speed limit, conditions, etc., you are changing OTHER driver's behavior. This is a BIG danger for the reasons I and Kestas have pointed out.
Also, with two lane roads (one lane each direction) slow drivers are yet an even bigger hazard. Around here there are many two lane roads that have relatively heavy traffic going into and out of the city (the city is a "hub and spoke" design). People regularly pull out into the roads (often when there is not adequate room to in the first place), then will go 35-40 in a 55. This causes a huge line of cars to back up. When you run up on a huge line of cars like this, it happens exceptionally fast because it isn't until you are nearly up on the last car in the line that you notice just how slow the line of cars is moving. I'd estimate this scenario causes at least a dozen accidents around here every month. Some of them are fatal.
On two lane roads exceptionally fast drivers need to slow down for slower drivers until there isn't traffic coming from the other direction so they can pass. This creates a safety concern if they don't judge oncoming traffic correctly, but it isn't a direct result of going too fast. It is a result of impatience/poor perception in the passing process. With most two lane roads it is unsafe to go much more than 55 or 60 anyway because of the road designs themselves and it is rare to have issues (at least around here) with exceptionally fast drivers on these types of roads.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
If you get hit by someone
If someone hits you, THEY are going to get the ticket!
Minimum speed limits on highways are usually 55 mph, so if you're doing the minimum, you're fine.
If you get hit by someone
If someone hits you, THEY are going to get the ticket!
Around here the posted interstate limits typically are 70, 60 for trucks, 55 minimum.
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Anyone one hits me? I've got a darn good lawyer, and in case of road rage I have a cell phone and a .45 by my side.
If you get hit by someone merging onto the highway, for example, and you are going 50 in a 65 you can expect to get a ticket yourself for going too slow once the cops arrive to take the police report for the accident. If you shoot someone who has road rage but isn't physically violent toward you, expect to go to jail for a long time.
Every sign I've ever seen claimed the minimum speed is 45. Thats in regard to an accident. Of course one should at least obey the minimum limit.
In the case of road rage, you're reading more into it. Perp would have to get violent first of course. Would that not make sense? Otherwise I would be the one with road rage. Think About It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Anyone one hits me? I've got a darn good lawyer, and in case of road rage I have a cell phone and a .45 by my side.
If you get hit by someone merging onto the highway, for example, and you are going 50 in a 65 you can expect to get a ticket yourself for going too slow once the cops arrive to take the police report for the accident. If you shoot someone who has road rage but isn't physically violent toward you, expect to go to jail for a long time.
Every sign I've ever seen claimed the minimum speed is 45. Thats in regard to an accident. Of course one should at least obey the minimum limit.
In the case of road rage, you're reading more into it. Perp would have to get violent first of course. Would that not make sense? Otherwise I would be the one with road rage. Think About It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Going 45 packin your 45! I like it!
I as well have tried the slower, smoother approach to driving. I usually set the cruise at 65 or 70 (depending on the speed limit), keep a good distance back from cars ahead of me, gradually slow down (to an almost complete stop if necessary) for the hemorrhoids, and try and not "fight back" anymore with the total road ragers. Makes for a much better experience overall. It's actually quite laughable. When you sit back, slow down, and just experience the mayhem on the roads instead of engaging, it's staggering how disrespectful people are. Vehicles become a suit of armor for the deeply angry and disturbed among us. Someone will literally try and run you off the road, but that same person will smile at you and say hi in the grocery store. Cars are kind of like the internet in that way! I think it's a symptom of our society, our culture, and our economy going down the toilet. Most people (the ones who pay attention) deep down know we're headed for a bad place. Ahhh Orwell...
I as well have tried the slower, smoother approach to driving. I usually set the cruise at 65 or 70 (depending on the speed limit), keep a good distance back from cars ahead of me, gradually slow down (to an almost complete stop if necessary) for the hemorrhoids, and try and not "fight back" anymore with the total road ragers. Makes for a much better experience overall. It's actually quite laughable. When you sit back, slow down, and just experience the mayhem on the roads instead of engaging, it's staggering how disrespectful people are. Vehicles become a suit of armor for the deeply angry and disturbed among us. Someone will literally try and run you off the road, but that same person will smile at you and say hi in the grocery store. Cars are kind of like the internet in that way! I think it's a symptom of our society, our culture, and our economy going down the toilet. Most people (the ones who pay attention) deep down know we're headed for a bad place. Ahhh Orwell...
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I don't know about you but I fully expect right lane traffic to be moving slowly, just as I expect left lane traffic to be moving quickly.
Several years ago I saw a Lincoln Navigator passing everyone at 100+ MPH in the right lane. Then he moved over into the left lane and slowed down to 60MPH. The speed limit on that 6-lane highway is 65MPH. Not sure what was going on there.
I don't know about you but I fully expect right lane traffic to be moving slowly, just as I expect left lane traffic to be moving quickly.
Several years ago I saw a Lincoln Navigator passing everyone at 100+ MPH in the right lane. Then he moved over into the left lane and slowed down to 60MPH. The speed limit on that 6-lane highway is 65MPH. Not sure what was going on there.
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