It's impossible to enjoy driving these days.

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There's that, too--people who drive 35 in a 45. Really works well when the traffic signals are set up for traffic moving at 45MPH.

Then you get the people who, apparently, got behind the wheel of their car with no clue where their destination is. They're the ones stopped in the middle of a traffic lane on their cell-phone asking for directions, because they're too stupid to pull off the road.
 
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
When it is safe, people should go the speed limit. There are a few roads around where I live that are 55 mph that should be 45, so then it is fine IMO to go slower than the posted speed limit. But I don't think it is rude or disrespectful to expect people to generally go the speed limit. Around here people will regularly go 35-40 in 55 mph zones on county highways, sometimes causing scores of cars to become backed up. In cases like this, it is THEY who are being rude and disrespectful. As for elderly drivers... if they don't have the capacity to drive any more they shouldn't be on the road. That may not be politically correct and may not make people "feel good", but if someone is a safety hazard to other drivers they shouldn't be driving. After age 72 or so the elderly should have to renew their license at least every other year, IMO.

I agree with Illinois and road construction. I travel through the Indiana to Milwaukee corridor a few times a year and much more than other states they seem to have never-ending road projects, and often roads are listed as construction zones with no construction taking place. A year and a half ago part of our trip consisted of going on I39 from Rockford (I think that is it...) to Madison. From Rockford to the WI border (about 40 miles if I remember right) it was a construction zone with a 45 mph speed limit but absolutely no construction was taking place.


My grandmother will be 86 this year and I think she's been tested every year or every other year for a while now. She still passes.
 
If everyone is driving faster than you are, then you should speed up and follow the flow of traffic. Or else move out of the way.

The people who usually complain are the ones who are going to slow for the flow and are wondering why they are getting hassled.

If I want to relax or enjoy a car ride, I don't do it during rush hour or congested areas. During the day I usually want to get home in a decent amount of time so I can relax there, not stuck behind some guy doing 80kmh in a 80kmh zone on a freeway while everyone else is safely doing 95.
 
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Here in new Jersey it is against the law to blow your horn unless it is an emergency..
And unless you are involved in law enforcement or have a family member that is in law enforcment chances are the ticket will stick
 
If someone tailgates me, I move over.

If they flash their highbeams at me, I flip my mirror up.

If they follow me too closely for no reason, I tap my brake pedal to flash my brake lights.

If they continue driving erratically and dangerously, I turn on my cell phone headset and call the police.

If I want to enjoy driving at a leisurely pace (which is rare), I stay out of the left lane.

When there is no traffic, I drive on the right and pass on the left.

If someone is rude to me, I let them by and give them plenty of space so that they will be caught in the speed trap and I will cruise by.

If I'm driving through an active construction zone or past an emergency vehicle on the shoulder, I slow WAY down (sometimes 10-15 under the posted limit) and give them as much space as I can.

For an awake driver in a good car on a smooth and open road, I think speed limits are stupid, and that's as much as I will publicly say on that subject.

My license is clean, my car is intact, and my blood pressure is fine.
 
Some of you guys should drive here in MI...it's pretty much a free for all here.


I've seen things here that you would normally only see in movies...
 
Originally Posted By: silverrat
If everyone is driving faster than you are, then you should speed up and follow the flow of traffic. Or else move out of the way.

The people who usually complain are the ones who are going to slow for the flow and are wondering why they are getting hassled.

If I want to relax or enjoy a car ride, I don't do it during rush hour or congested areas. During the day I usually want to get home in a decent amount of time so I can relax there, not stuck behind some guy doing 80kmh in a 80kmh zone on a freeway while everyone else is safely doing 95.



^^ This. If you are driving the speed limit, and everyone else is speeding... You are a road hazard. You are creating more danger by obstructing the flow of traffic than you would be just speeding, and keeping up with the flow. If the flow of traffic is 70-75, keep up, don't go trying to be all independent and do the speed limit of 65.
 
Its kinda funny. To get home I have to drive along this 35MPH road with a couple businesses. One of them is this "Bargain Town". Basically the place looks like a trash heap. Maybe only slightly better than a hoarder's place. This guy sells this trash. Anyway, everybody that goes there drives 10 under. Never fails. No idea why.
Anyway, thats really the only place that gets my blood boiling. I like driving around and I do that occasionally. Especially on nice nights where I can drive around with the windows open.
 
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Ever notice how youe will get behind the "flock"?
All traveling the exact same limit, neck and neck, blocking the whole highway, and the idiot in the left lane refuses to let you by? Enfuriates me... I ain't talking about speeding, but I wanna get past you at some point..
 
Originally Posted By: silverrat
If everyone is driving faster than you are, then you should speed up and follow the flow of traffic. Or else move out of the way.

The people who usually complain are the ones who are going to slow for the flow and are wondering why they are getting hassled.

If I want to relax or enjoy a car ride, I don't do it during rush hour or congested areas. During the day I usually want to get home in a decent amount of time so I can relax there, not stuck behind some guy doing 80kmh in a 80kmh zone on a freeway while everyone else is safely doing 95.


Do you know why most areas are congested during rush hour? It's because people don't have common sense. It's a chain reaction and the reaction starts with disrespectful drivers. If people would just follow the law and go within the speed limit, have respect for people merging, respect for other drivers, there wouldn't be any congestion.

There's two flows: One that follows the law, and one who are rude and disrespectful. I'm only disrupting the law breakers. I'm tired of speeders who panic when they see a cop, slam on their brakes and disrupt the ones who are actually going the speed limit.

So Silverat, you'd rather risk an accident just so you "relax" at home? Most accidents occur because of stress, stress like the the way you probably drive.

Speeding and breaking the law while driving is like smoking and obesity: There's no excuse and if you try to protect your side, it's useless.

Following other law breakers on the road is like the common question people make : "If I jump off a bridge, would you do it too?" and "Monkey See, Monkey Do".
 
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Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
When it is safe, people should go the speed limit. There are a few roads around where I live that are 55 mph that should be 45, so then it is fine IMO to go slower than the posted speed limit. But I don't think it is rude or disrespectful to expect people to generally go the speed limit. Around here people will regularly go 35-40 in 55 mph zones on county highways, sometimes causing scores of cars to become backed up. In cases like this, it is THEY who are being rude and disrespectful. As for elderly drivers... if they don't have the capacity to drive any more they shouldn't be on the road. That may not be politically correct and may not make people "feel good", but if someone is a safety hazard to other drivers they shouldn't be driving. After age 72 or so the elderly should have to renew their license at least every other year, IMO.

I agree with Illinois and road construction. I travel through the Indiana to Milwaukee corridor a few times a year and much more than other states they seem to have never-ending road projects, and often roads are listed as construction zones with no construction taking place. A year and a half ago part of our trip consisted of going on I39 from Rockford (I think that is it...) to Madison. From Rockford to the WI border (about 40 miles if I remember right) it was a construction zone with a 45 mph speed limit but absolutely no construction was taking place.


Print what you typed...read it when you turn over 70.... It's like little kids who make fun of adults...they will pay the price as well.
 
Unless road conditions are poor, Do. The. Speed. Limit. Nothing ticks me off more than people who refuse to do the posted limit. If it's 55, why are you doing 40? 45? Is it that hard to speed up? It is rude and disrespectful to drive 35 in a 55 because you feel like taking your time. If you want to drive slow, pull the heck over and let the people who have places to be and don't want to waste time dawdling about while someone cruises along at 15-20 under.
 
I am amazed there are people driving that far under the limit? In ontario the posted limit is 80km/h for a 2 lane highway, the enforced limit is 100km/h and most people drive at 90-100km/h.
Someone doing 80km/h may draw some harrasment but usually people just put up with it and wait until its safe to pass.
The only times I see people going less than 80km/h are on roads with so little traffic that passing them is a non-issue.
 
I've always wondered what exactly it takes to get a speeding ticket. In over 20 years of driving, I've always gone between 5-10 over on highways and have never gotten pulled over. Am I just insanely lucky, do the state troopers only go after those going way over, or is it just statistically unlikely to ever get a speeding ticket?

I have been pulled over three times, where I got warnings each time, for a burned out license plate bulb, and headlights going out; all during long, cross country car trips.
 
I don't think driving to far under the speed limit is a good idea, but maybe 5mph under is ok.

My dad actually got a ticket for going slower than the sign stated(38 in a 45) but he was trying to find a street he had passed a couple times to do a side job for someone.

I don't think older people should have their licenses taken away. I think we should all be tested every few years(young and old) and filter out those who epic fail at driving. Seriously there are little 18 year old girls and boys who play Nascar/Fast and the Furious on the road and don't obey any traffic laws what so ever. They pull into your lane when you are right next to them etc.
 
It's probably just that most cops have much bigger fish to fry than people going 5-10 over.
 
There are two kinds of driving:

- day-to-day driving to get things done such as commute, etc. Expecting to enjoy such driving is a little naive.

- driving for enjoyment, usually done outside major urban areas or cruising in areas where people do cruising.
 
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