Is Royal purple worth the extra $$?

[sir1900]

I like the purple because it makes it easier to check the dipstick after an oil change on the Honda. Light brown oil on a orange plastic dipstick makes it a little difficult (though not entirely impossible) to see the oil level.

As mentioned before, Pep Boys has the occasional sale of 5 qts plus an RP filter for $39.99. Buy one or two OCIs worth and you'll be good to go for a while. The RP filter, by all accounts, is a solid filter with wire backed media.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
NHHEMI your prices are unreasonable. No one here (that I know of) goes into Walmart and buys single quarts of oil for their entire OCI. A 5 quart jug of Mobil 1 at my Walmart is $24.97 and a 5 quart jug of Royal Purple is $37.79

Price per quart:
Mobil 1: $4.99 a quart
Royal Purple: $7.56

I'm not buying purple oil just for sh!ts and giggles of being able to tell people my car has purple oil in it and add $13.00 unnecessarily for an oil change.


Well, I tried to bow out but seeing as people are commenting directly to me...

Not only are the prices I list reasonable they are in fact actual prices as of this morning being charged at the places mentioned. I didn't set or make up those prices. They are what actual qts cost right now. Is basically $10 a qt for RP unreasonable? Sure seems it to me and I would agree. However, if you say that then you must also say the same about all the other $9-$10 a qt brands too. M1 is over priced, Valvoline Synpower is overpriced, Castrol Edge is overpriced, etc...

People are always saying RP is more money. That is just NOT true as a blanket statement the way they make it. Take away the 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart aspect and it is no more expensive than the other name brand oils. If you shop around a little you can match or even beat those 5qt jug prices from Wal-Mart as well( I gave prices I have paid the last 2X's earlier ). That is my point.

Not everyone buys oil at Wal-Mart. I wish people would realize that. The oil prices in those 5qt jugs sold at Wal-Mart are unique to that store chain and should not be used to generalize about the cost of oil everywhere. Unfortunately, here at BITOG, Wal-Mart 5qt pricing seems to be all people can see/talk about. Oil costs more when purchased elsewhere. RP is no more expensive than name brand oils elsewhere. RP can be bought elsewhere in deals that match or even beat those 5qt jug prices. All of that is true but it is totally ignored at BITOG. Why?

I buy oil by the qt bottles and I am here. I know of many people( not saying here )that buy oil in qt bottles. Do you think that only BITOG members buy oil? Lots of people with sumps smaller than 5qts who do not want that extra oil left over so they buy qts. Lots of people with sumps greater than 5qts who buy the extra qts to make up what they need. It is not crazy like you make it out to be.

If someone buys RP for the color they are an idiot. I certainly hope you aren't implying I do. I buy it because I have years of experience using it and seeing excellent results.

Your post is very typical of the BTOG mentality about RP. Ill mannered, rude, arrogant, and I daresay uninformed. IF cost is so important to you then why are you paying so much buying those overpriced 5 qt jugs of M1 at Wal-Mart when you can order Kendgall GT1 synthetic for $3.96 a qt shipped. Man those 5 qt jugs of M1 are way overpriced.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: wemay
I just cannot understand how it's a 'lie' or 'perpetuating hate' when people say RP is more expensive than other oils that will serve their owners just as well for the oci used


Because, that only applies to 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart yet it is put out there as if it is everywhere. That is what I am trying to get people to see. As I have shown RP is priced similarly when those 5 qt Wal-Mart jugs are not in the comparison. If people want to say RP costs more than 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart that is true for the most part and people like me wouldn't take such exception. If they just say it costs more period, and use that as a way to be negative about it, that is untrue.

They are a small boutique company and they just can not sell their oil at Wal-Mart at the prices the big companies like M1, Pennzoil, Castrol, Valvoline, etc... can. They just don't have the means and capacity to do it. There are a lot of folks who won't shop at Wal-Mart( for whatever reason )as well. So Wal-Mart pricing is not the end all be all so many here think it is. And as I have pointed out you actually can buy RP at pricing that matches or even beats the 5qt jug Wal-Mart price. I do it all the time.

Not meant offensive. You at least have been reasonable in the thread. I am merely discussing your comment.

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
NHHEMI your prices are unreasonable. No one here (that I know of) goes into Walmart and buys single quarts of oil for their entire OCI. A 5 quart jug of Mobil 1 at my Walmart is $24.97 and a 5 quart jug of Royal Purple is $37.79

Price per quart:
Mobil 1: $4.99 a quart
Royal Purple: $7.56

I'm not buying purple oil just for sh!ts and giggles of being able to tell people my car has purple oil in it and add $13.00 unnecessarily for an oil change.


Well, I tried to bow out but seeing as people are commenting directly to me...

Not only are the prices I list reasonable they are in fact actual prices as of this morning being charged at the places mentioned. I didn't set or make up those prices. They are what actual qts cost right now. Is basically $10 a qt for RP unreasonable? Sure seems it to me and I would agree. However, if you say that then you must also say the same about all the other $9-$10 a qt brands too. M1 is over priced, Valvoline Synpower is overpriced, Castrol Edge is overpriced, etc...

People are always saying RP is more money. That is just NOT true as a blanket statement the way they make it. Take away the 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart aspect and it is no more expensive than the other name brand oils. If you shop around a little you can match or even beat those 5qt jug prices from Wal-Mart as well( I gave prices I have paid the last 2X's earlier ). That is my point.

Not everyone buys oil at Wal-Mart. I wish people would realize that. The oil prices in those 5qt jugs sold at Wal-Mart are unique to that store chain and should not be used to generalize about the cost of oil everywhere. Unfortunately, here at BITOG, Wal-Mart 5qt pricing seems to be all people can see/talk about. Oil costs more when purchased elsewhere. RP is no more expensive than name brand oils elsewhere. RP can be bought elsewhere in deals that match or even beat those 5qt jug prices. All of that is true but it is totally ignored at BITOG. Why?

I buy oil by the qt bottles and I am here. I know of many people( not saying here )that buy oil in qt bottles. Do you think that only BITOG members buy oil? Lots of people with sumps smaller than 5qts who do not want that extra oil left over so they buy qts. Lots of people with sumps greater than 5qts who buy the extra qts to make up what they need. It is not crazy like you make it out to be.

If someone buys RP for the color they are an idiot. I certainly hope you aren't implying I do. I buy it because I have years of experience using it and seeing excellent results.

Your post is very typical of the BTOG mentality about RP. Ill mannered, rude, arrogant, and I daresay uninformed. IF cost is so important to you then why are you paying so much buying those overpriced 5 qt jugs of M1 at Wal-Mart when you can order Kendgall GT1 synthetic for $3.96 a qt shipped. Man those 5 qt jugs of M1 are way overpriced.

Cost isn't everything. I'll pay good money for an oil my car needs. To be honest I paid over $11 a quart for the oil that's in my TDI, but that's because I wanted to change the oil and didn't look online/ want to wait for it to be delivered. I personally do believe I have an advantage with the oil I bought for a high price for my car, because it's almost I possible to find an oil in stores that meets my car's oil specifications. So what's the advantage with Royal Purple? I have never heard that Royal Purple is better than a typical synthetic oil like Mobil 1. What about it is better, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
Your cost argument is a house of cards. Even you admit that the vast majority of members here buy their oil in 5-quart jugs from Wal-Mart.

Even if I had a 6-quart sump, it is FAR more economical to buy 5-quart jugs in lieu of quarts.

24 X $7.86 (Your CHEAPEST Wal-Mart price) = 188.64
5, 5-quart jugs X $22.95 (My Wal-Mart price for M1) = $114.75

That's a savings of $73.89. Almost enough to buy another 3, 5-quart jugs.

How can you preach about us being honest when you can't even be honest with yourself?


Wow. Now I am being accused of dishonesty( with myself no less ). This place is a hoot.

I have never said the 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart are not cheaper p/qt vs. qt bottle prices out there in retail land. I was pointing out that all these blanket statements that RP is overpriced are incorrect as it is priced the same, when qt bottle costs are compared, as the name brand oils. That is just a fact. One the RP anti's want to ignore and not discuss because it hurts their agenda.

Keep in mind as well that not everyone in the world buys at Wal-Mart. If you are not a patron of their stores then you buy at qt bottle prices. Also, as I have posted earlier in this thread, I have no trouble finding RP at prices that match or even beat those 5qt Wal-Mart jugs. I paid $5.66 p/qt and $4.80 p/qt respectively the last 2X's I bought RP. That is 2013 and 2014 and was for their 5W20 API formula both times.

It is actually a riot the way people act on this site. I "jump through hoops" because I shop around to get a good deal on RP like that is a bad thing. Yet people are always posting here about they got this or that on BOGO or with a big discount. It is ok to get deals on things other than RP I guess.

 

[NHHEMI]

I really am done this time. It is getting way too deep( b s )in here for me now. I don't wish to be banned. Arguing over this is silly really. Buy the brand you like, at the store you like, for a price you are happy with. That is what matters.

 

[FutureDoc]

I was just at the local auto parts store...

For singlets... not oil change specials

House-Brand: $5.49
Havoline $6.29 (boo-ya)
Mobil Special $7.99
Motorcraft: $7.99
M1: $9.19
Castrol: 9.19 & 9.59
PP: 9.19
V Syn: 9.19
RP: $9.79

I don't see RP being unreasonable. Rarely discounted might be the issue. So being a Valvoline-like oil makes me doubt the value compare to something like the Napa special... but compared to Valvoline Synpower... the cost or the regular price is minimal. That being said the Oil Change special with Synpower is $10 cheaper. Go fig.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: wemay
I just cannot understand how it's a 'lie' or 'perpetuating hate' when people say RP is more expensive than other oils that will serve their owners just as well for the oci used


Because, that only applies to 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart yet it is put out there as if it is everywhere. That is what I am trying to get people to see. As I have shown RP is priced similarly when those 5 qt Wal-Mart jugs are not in the comparison. If people want to say RP costs more than 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart that is true for the most part and people like me wouldn't take such exception. If they just say it costs more period, and use that as a way to be negative about it, that is untrue.

They are a small boutique company and they just can not sell their oil at Wal-Mart at the prices the big companies like M1, Pennzoil, Castrol, Valvoline, etc... can. They just don't have the means and capacity to do it. There are a lot of folks who won't shop at Wal-Mart( for whatever reason )as well. So Wal-Mart pricing is not the end all be all so many here think it is. And as I have pointed out you actually can buy RP at pricing that matches or even beats the 5qt jug Wal-Mart price. I do it all the time.

Not meant offensive. You at least have been reasonable in the thread. I am merely discussing your comment.


Fair point NHEMI. I am, in full disclosure, a big fan of RP. I know the VOA's don't show much more than SynPower but the fantastic UOA suggest there is much more than meets the eye.

 

[bilibako2]

My 06 Accord like's the 0w-20 on winter but only when buy it on sale,I stocked some when they are on sale at Pep Boy's years ago.
The purple color when you pour in engine then after few minutes of idling back to light brownish color.

 

[deven]

I paid $88 for a case of 12 shipped for Royal Purple HPS 5w30 from eBay about a month ago. Comes out to $7.34/qt. I'm ok with that for a Group IV synthetic with synerlec additive which is Grp V. I have a great relationship with RP techs and this was verified to me a couple of months ago.

 

[RazorsEdge]

Originally Posted By: deven
I paid $88 for a case of 12 shipped for Royal Purple HPS 5w30 from eBay about a month ago. Comes out to $7.34/qt. I'm ok with that for a Group IV synthetic with synerlec additive which is Grp V. I have a great relationship with RP techs and this was verified to me a couple of months ago.

Yup,people these days look @ Walmart only and pass judgement according to the prices they see there when there are plenty of places to get Royal Purple cheaper.But hey,if you clearly dont want to buy it,no biggie,there are others oils to choose from.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: deven
I paid $88 for a case of 12 shipped for Royal Purple HPS 5w30 from eBay about a month ago. Comes out to $7.34/qt. I'm ok with that for a Group IV synthetic with synerlec additive which is Grp V. I have a great relationship with RP techs and this was verified to me a couple of months ago.


Great deal. I was also told by their techs that even the API is Grp IV.

 

[wemay]

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Edge-Syntec-0W20-Motor-Oil-5-Quart/35931147

If Castrol EDGE, Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum Plus and Royal Purple were $1-$2 different at Walmart, I'd get RP. EDGE is now out of the running if the link above is any indication.

 

[deven]

Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: deven
I paid $88 for a case of 12 shipped for Royal Purple HPS 5w30 from eBay about a month ago. Comes out to $7.34/qt. I'm ok with that for a Group IV synthetic with synerlec additive which is Grp V. I have a great relationship with RP techs and this was verified to me a couple of months ago.



Great deal. I was also told by their techs that even the API is Grp IV.

All their oil line up is Group IV except for their break in oil and all of them are guaranteed for 12,000 miles(yes even the API certified line)

Funny thing is I can get this deal all the time because its a normal price and not some sale price.

 

[RISUPERCREWMAN]

I am a recent Royal Purple convert after trying this oil in my 2011 Crown Vic 4.6. This stuff is super smooth. I recently put it in my new 2014 Ram 2500 HD 5.7 Hemi at 475 miles & noticed a quieter engine right away also! I am putting the Max Cycle 20W50 V-Twin oil in my Harley at its next service! I simply don't mind paying a bit more for quality oil especially when I don't plan on getting rid of any of these vehicles anytime soon!

 

[deven]

Originally Posted By: RazorsEdge
Originally Posted By: deven
I paid $88 for a case of 12 shipped for Royal Purple HPS 5w30 from eBay about a month ago. Comes out to $7.34/qt. I'm ok with that for a Group IV synthetic with synerlec additive which is Grp V. I have a great relationship with RP techs and this was verified to me a couple of months ago.

Yup,people these days look @ Walmart only and pass judgement according to the prices they see there when there are plenty of places to get Royal Purple cheaper.But hey,if you clearly dont want to buy it,no biggie,there are others oils to choose from.



I can understand why because those prices at Walmart are great indeed. You are correct there are other places and you can't put a price on the convenience of having it mailed to your door and avoiding the hassle of a trip to Walmart.

Since people are are talking about pricing it got me doing some math.

The cheapest I found Royal Purple HPS today was $93/case. So $7.75/qt x 5 is $38.75. Say Walmart 5qt jugs are $23-24 so doing the math I'm paying approximately $16 more per 5qts.

So what am I getting more by paying $16 more?
1)100% PAO basestock
2)100% POE(Grp V) Synerlec additive
3)One of the strongest additive pack(HPS. line usually has zddp over 1000ppm)
4)Guarantees 12,000 mile OCI,s(I do 10k)
5)Convenience of home delivery.

To me that extra $16 is worth it!

 

[Oil Changer]

And what does a used oil analysis show?

Originally Posted By: wemay
I know the VOA's don't show much more than SynPower but the fantastic used oil analysis suggest there is much more than meets the eye.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: deven
So what am I getting more by paying $16 more?
1)100% PAO basestock
2)100% POE(Grp V) Synerlec additive
3)One of the strongest additive pack (HPS line usually has zddp over 1000ppm)
4)Guarantees 12,000 mile OCI,s (I do 10k)
5)Convenience of home delivery.

To me that extra $16 is worth it!


Which is fine, but none of them except fort #5 mean much of anything, right?

 

[MalfunctionProne]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: deven
So what am I getting more by paying $16 more?
1)100% PAO basestock
2)100% POE(Grp V) Synerlec additive
3)One of the strongest additive pack (HPS line usually has zddp over 1000ppm)
4)Guarantees 12,000 mile OCI,s (I do 10k)
5)Convenience of home delivery.

To me that extra $16 is worth it!



Which is fine, but none of them except fort #5 mean much of anything, right?


It's true, I get my Royal Purple and Redline delivered from Anazon.com. Never have to worry about what store has or does not have what that way, AND it comes to you.

I mix Royal Purple and Redline in equal parts now, so, I mix Group 4 (IV) with Group 5 (V.) I hope they mix well. They seem to.

Royal Purple is very very good for me, only indecisiveness has me mix in and top off if needed with Redline oils after filling with RP.

Yes, it costs more. To my engines, I feel it worth it. Only the grade or weight of oil to use is a slight question. I select 0W-20 in both grades and go from there.

 

[deven]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: deven
So what am I getting more by paying $16 more?
1)100% PAO basestock
2)100% POE(Grp V) Synerlec additive
3)One of the strongest additive pack (HPS line usually has zddp over 1000ppm)
4)Guarantees 12,000 mile OCI,s (I do 10k)
5)Convenience of home delivery.

To me that extra $16 is worth it!


Which is fine, but none of them except fort #5 mean much of anything, right?

To you probably. To me its a little of everything. I'm willing to pay extra for a true synthetic and imo a better basestock and additive package. But the most important aspect of RP I like is that every engine I have put into makes it quieter and smoother(yes my butt dyno but I trust my instincts). The only oil that duplicates this is Red Line but then my engine feels sluggish and gas mileage takes a hit. Disclosure: I have never tried Amsoil so that is out of this conversation.