Originally Posted By: kschachn
Well OK, but how is it better than say, Mobil 1? You have good results yes, but would they have been not so good had you used another top-tier synthetic?
I think the use of the word gimmick relates to the higher price. Yes, you can get it cheaper than the price at Walmart, but can you get it cheaper than M1 at Walmart? If it is "better" than M1, is the price differential worth it?
And as much as you don't wish to discuss it, the color is a gimmick. It's part of the name and therefore is part of the marketing/brand. And it is immaterial, of course.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
It is a gimmick oil
So you are overpaying for this so you can tell your friends
It costs 12-15 bucks more per jug than most other quality syn and nobody has shown why
Now see, this is the kind of stuff that gets people who use it upset.
Gimmick oil? Overpaying to brag about it? Just lame. As I stated, I have used it for years with excellent results and I posted used oil analysis here backing it up. I also do not pay more for it vs. other oils but as usual people just assume RP is way more expensive OR they assume the 5qt jug aisle at Wal-Mart is the ONLY place to buy oil. It truly gets laughable it is so sad.
Who is to say M1 or one of the other synthetics are better than RP and would have returned similar or better results in my application? If I have had such good results with it why would I use something else? Do you have a product you like and stick with? How is this any different? I have never said other oils can't do well too either. I simply relate my experience with RP when people ask about it. This thread was started with a specific question about RP. Very few answers in here based on real world use. Mostly the usual BITOG bull hooey about it is no good because of price and color. NOT that engines failed on it or other similar bad experiences that would validate saying it is no good just the usual price/color bashing. At least my response is backed up by actual use.
You have to love this site and the way people always want you to prove RP is better than brand X if you say something good about it. Well, how about you prove it isn't. Why is it always on us to prove something? People can say it is a bad product without ever using it and that is ok around here. It's cool on BITOG to bash RP with nothing to substantiate your hate. However, if you actually use it, like I do, and say it does well we have to prove that? Why? I have used it with great results and even have used oil analysis showing it. I have nothing to prove to anyone. I really love those who say it is nothing more than Valvoline according to PQIA when beating up on RP in an RP thread as if that is substandard oil. However, in other threads, where RP is not discussed, those same folks say how good the Valvoline is. Just a riot.
So they use purple dye. So what. Why is that a gimmick? Gimmick implies trickery or deception by definition. How a color, as it relates to engine oil, is deceptive is beyond me. People are way too hung up on the color. Who cares.
I would use pink, green, red, blue, polkadot, etc... oil if it was a good product. Color of the oil is completely irrelevant to me.
As to the price. I have posted many times before on here with the prices I have paid for RP that are actually the same or even less than M1 in 5 qt jugs at Wal-Mart. I have shown time and again it is not as expensive as others claim. The last RP oil I bought was back around April( 2014 ) and I got a 6pak case of the 5W20 API stuff shipped for $34 = $5.66 a qt. Mobil 1 5w20 5qt jug at Wal-Mart here is approx. $27 = $5.40 a qt. As said same approx. price. My previous RP purchase before that was a case of the API 5W20 that came in around $4.80 a qt. That is less than the 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart.
If price was the overwhelming factor in my purchase decisions, as it appears to be for so many on BITOG, I wouldn't be shopping at Wal-Mart because even their 5qt jugs would be "over priced". I can get Kendall GT1 full synthetic 5W20 shipped to my door for $3.96 a qt( 2 cases with free shipping @ $94.96 / 24qts = $3.96 each ). That Kendall oil is as good as any of the regular name brand oils sold in bulk jugs at Wal-Mart. So by BITOG logic anyone buying 5qt jugs of M1 at Wal-Mart is overpaying. I am not saying that just pointing out the rampant hypocrisy that permeates this place.
If you talk regular retail qt price( yes, some people buy their oil by the qt )vs. the the regular name brand lines it is pretty much the same as they are all in the $9-$10 a qt range including RP. Bottom line is you can get RP for the same as those 5qt Wal-Mart jugs if you look for it. It is also NOT more expensive than other brands when you compare qt bottle to qt bottle prices. It comes in right in line with other brands.
I will also repeat what I have stated before and that is not everyone buys oil in 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart. There is a whole world out there besides the Wal-Mart oil aisle where oil can be purchased. Internet, speed shops, wholesalers, parts stores, etc... Avail yourself of the plethora of opportunities available to you out there.
